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Subject: Re: [Leica] re: Ruth Orkin's hoax Rome photo
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 12:59:09 -0800
References: <D3C14E78-1087-11D8-AAAB-000393CD5068@nemeng.com>

Andrew

Yes, even in the framework of 1951 mores, that photo was a bit "over the
top".

Jerry

Andrew Nemeth wrote:

> > > overview nevertheless.  On "part 4" there are also background details
> > > on Ruth Orkin's faked (or should I say "hoax") "An American Girl in
> > > Italy 1950".
> >
> > Interesting choice of words? Faked? Hoax? Why. Did those men not
> > behave like
> > that towards the woman coming past them? Certainly they did - it's
> > there
> > recorded on film.
>
> Or background on Ms Orkin's photo, read the relevant paragraphs in
> Mr Mraz article at:
>
> <http://www.zonezero.com/magazine/articles/mraz/mraz04.html>
>
> See also the email discussion between Mr Mraz and John G. Morris at:
>
> <http://www.zonezero.com/magazine/articles/mraz/mailsmm.html>
>
> I think you will see there enough discussion to back up the assertion
> that this image was heavily "directed".
>
> So why call it a fake or hoax?  Because it pretends to be something it
> is not.  It pretends to be a spontaneous, slice of life shot of a woman
> being harassed on a street in Rome, when it is actually a carefully
> staged
> tableaux of "actors" being directed by the photographer.  In the
> specific
> case of the guys on the motor scooter, they were actually *paid* to
> react
> the way they did.
>
> None of this was noted anywhere when this rancid piece of anti-male
> propaganda was published.  It only came out (much) later.
>
> This is "truthful"?  I think not.
>
> Regds,
>
> Andrew Nemeth
> Blue Mountains  NSW   Australia
> <http://nemeng.com>
>
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In reply to: Message from Andrew Nemeth <azn@nemeng.com> ([Leica] re: Ruth Orkin's hoax Rome photo)