RE: [Leica] Is digital photography necrophilia?

["B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

Tha was a reference to pen discussions and fountain pens, Jerry...Not a
swipe at engineers. After all, some of my best...students...are
engineers. ;-)

B. D.

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry
Lehrer
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:07 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Is digital photography necrophilia?


BD 767

I don't have an "ink stained shirt"!  As a card-carrying Engineer, I use
a pocket protector.

Jerry

"B. D. Colen" wrote:

> ;-)
> But come on, Rolf, it is a list devoted to "Leica photography-" all 
> though precious few members spend their time photographing Leicas - 
> but photography is an important part of the purpose. Let's be honest 
> here...if the only thing photographic discussed was Leica equipment 
> and unique aspects of its use, this list would be down to two people 
> in about a week. First off, there is virtually nothing about Leica 
> equipment that hasn't been discussed here as extensively as Tilley 
> hats
> - one doesn't need to spend time on the list to get equipment
questions
> answered; all one has to do is go to the archives. And as to the
> "unique" aspects of photography with Leicas - such as? Come on - an
EOS
> (film) Rebel is just as quiet as an M; there are other rangefinder
> cameras; there's nothing "unique" about photographing with Rs, so we
> come back to equipment.
>
> What this list really is is an international community of people who 
> seem to have at least two things in common - we all use and are 
> perhaps a bit irrationally attached to Leica equipment of one sort of 
> another; and we are all interested in photography, to one extent or 
> another.
>
> For those of us who are interested in photography, the onslaught of 
> digital is a major topic - and who better to discuss it with than 
> those we Leica..?
>
> Hats? Scotch? Pens? Custom made bicycles? Take that trash talk to list

> for hat-wearing, drunk, bikeriders with inkstained shirts!:-)
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Rolfe 
> Tessem
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:53 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Is digital photography necrophilia?
>
> B. D. Colen wrote:
>
> > The reality, Rolfe, is that other than here and on photo-net, 
> > Leica-related talk is getting to be rarer and rarer. I'd point out, 
> > if
>
> > I may, that those of us discussing digital more and more are people 
> > who have shot with Leicas, and very often still do shoot with 
> > Leicas, but have also embraced a new reality, and that reality is 
> > now part of our photographic lives. You say you had no problem 
> > tolerating Tilly hats, single malts, etc....and motorcycles, and 
> > cars, and pens, and hi-fi equipment. Then what's the problem with 
> > tolerating discussion of
>
> > digital photography? It's at least relevant to a photography list, 
> > while all those other topics, which at times have completely 
> > dominated
>
> > the list for days at a time, are utterly and complete irrelevant.
> >
> > B. D.
>
> B.D.,
>
> I don't think Leica-related talk is getting to be rarer and rarer -- 
> at least in recent years it has always been the LUG and photo.net (and

> its precursors).
>
> The problem with the second part of your post is that this isn't a 
> general purpose photography list. It is one thing for completely 
> off-topic threads such as those about Tilly hats and single malts to 
> meander for a few days, and quite another for people to treat a Leica 
> list as a place to debate anything and everything photographic 
> regardless of the topic's relevance to things Leica. Since digital is 
> the latest thing, that is what dominates at the moment, and has for 
> weeks and weeks.
>
> This will cause (and arguably already has caused) the LUG to 
> completely lose its focus and become a non-resource rather than the 
> valuable one that it has been over the years.
>
> Just to be clear, I have nothing against digital per se. When the 
> Leica digital back for the R8/R9 arrives, I expect it to be discussed 
> here on the LUG -- probably ad nauseum. :-).
>
> Rolfe
>
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