Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/09/21

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Subject: Re: [Leica] FOCUS GROUPS for LEICA/ HERMES
From: tedgrant@shaw.ca
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:02:54 -0400

>I think of focus groups as providing input into
> establishing sustaining development priorities.> 

Andrew mon ami,

And do you consider the LUG a genuine focus group? 

Now before you answer, a moment please. Is this truly a focus group when we have horrendous discussions on supposedly non topics from almost hang nails to single malt scotch?

Or battling daily over a digital M? When day after day it can't be done with the lenses of the day? Nor that the M body as is can't be adapted and still feel the same?

Now I'm not saying some of these things can't be done. But, really haven't there been days when you wondered about the mental abiliy of some of us? And yes I include myself! :-) Even though my mental status has been challenged on more than one occasion.

All I'm saying is I find it hard to believe Solms or NJ would seriously consider much of what is said here when at least 90 % of it or more on some days is a scale above school yard boys and girls in a dribble match!

ted






- ----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Schroter <schroter@optonline.net>
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2003 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Leica] FOCUS GROUPS for LEICA/ HERMES

> In my computer industry experience, and the conclusion by some 
> experts in
> that area is that Focus groups can help with creating incremental
> improvements in products, but the breakthrough ideas and products 
> don't come
> out of focus groups.  Focus group constituents tend to look at 
> what they
> need this year and next, while, because of the long idea gestation and
> development cycles, Vendors have to look out a number of years 
> ahead, gauge
> what the market will require a number of years down the road and 
> empasizethat target in their R&D.  > AGS
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] FOCUS GROUPS for LEICA/ HERMES
> 
> 
> > Hi Jerry mon ami,
> >
> > Allow me a moment to save you and many others a great deal of
> anguish,wasted key time and frustrated nerve endings!  Certainly 
> time better
> spent on enjoying some quiet moments of picture taking. Of course 
> with your
> leica! :-)
> >
> > This topic of...."who does Leica listen to is an absolute non-
> issue as
> you'll never find out for sure, there will be 8 million surmises 
> and none
> will be right, close but not exactly right.
> >
> > Many of us over the years may or may not have said a tiny bit that
> actually got through to them and something tiny may or may not 
> have been
> done.
> >
> > But I suggest the LUG, despite what many on it may think, is not 
> paid much
> credibility by Leica. Now before every one get's their ass in a 
> knot think
> about the totally out of control topics that scream through here 
> sometime.Then imagine yourself a high ranking person in Solms or 
> NJ reading
> them.......... Then ask yourself this question........ "Should I 
> listen to
> this pack of neandrathals espousing the crap they get off on so 
> often?">
> > Now steady before replying, think about it for a moment...... "wild
> ripping at each other, cars, scotch and so many other totally off 
> topicitems of absolutely no relevance to photography, let alone 
> leica." Pause and
> breath!
> >
> > Now how much credence would you give to a clutch of clowns like 
> us some
> days?
> >
> > ted.
> >
> >
> >
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