Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/09/09

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Subject: Re: [Leica] was Riefenstahl - now the Germans?
From: Johnny Deadman <>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:48:05 -0400

actually I agree, Oliver, and I expressed myself badly. I meant to say 
'people like any other' rather than 'a people like any other' because 
you are right that they had a very particular cultural environment. But 
my point still stands... had BD or I been born into that culture with 
that mindset, I still say that we do not really know at his distance 
how we would have sided.

On Tuesday, September 9, 2003, at 06:48  PM, Oliver Bryk wrote:

> Johnny wrote:
> "Unless you believe that Germans were seized by a mass psychosis 
> between
> 1933 and at least 1939 and probably beyond, you have to assume that 
> they
> were a people much like any other and therefore that in the same
> circumstances other human beings would have acted very similarly."
> With all due respect I think that this a flawed assumption. The 
> Germans were
> accustomed for generation after generation to follow leaders. They 
> grew up
> in a completely different political environment than the one we are
> fortunate to take for granted in America. It is indeed a challenge to 
> think
> oneself into the German mindset that prevailed until - my guess - the 
> 1970s.
> Oliver
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