Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/09/07

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Subject: Re: [Leica] used leica (was A new M lens)
From: Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl>
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 20:58:05 +0200
References: <000101c374cc$fbf71410$0200a8c0@jim> <3F5A8DE6.759CA434@pacbell.net> <20030907162904.GE20040@panix.com>

I bought my second m6 a few months ago for EUR 950,-  But I haven't seen 
them that cheap anymore.

Best regards,

Michiel Fokkema

Rei Shinozuka wrote:
> yesterday i dropped in bergen county camera (www.bergencountycamera.com)
> and i saw they had something like 9 M's (mostly M6's, there was
> an M3 and an M2, and an M6J and M6 classic titanium an 
> M6 classic 0.85 in the box in mint condition, and two m7's.  
> i had never seen so many used M bodies there.  The cheapest m6 was about 
> $1,100 and looked (though the glass case) to be in nice shape.
> 
> -rei
> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 06:46:14PM -0700, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
> 
>>Jim
>>
>>The local Leica dealers have lots of M6's from people who
>>want M7's and/ or MP's.  I wish they had a chrome M6, but
>>they are all black.  The LA dealers have chrome ones, but I
>>won't drive up to see them.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>Jim Shulman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ted, I'm with you.  The new stuff is in the stratosphere, while barely
>>>used equipment takes a much bigger price hit today.
>>>
>>>Has anyone taken a look lately at the decline in used Leica prices?
>>>Last year you'd be luck to find a really gorgeous M3 body CLAd for less
>>>than a grand.  This week I've not only heard of one (WITH a MR meter),
>>>but also an M4 in similar shape with MR-4 meter for the same sub-$1000
>>>price.  The same is true for lenses.  I know of a dealer who's
>>>upside-down on a number of items: a Summarex in lovely shape that, a
>>>year or so ago would have fetched $1500-1700 on THAT WEBSITE now could
>>>barely make a grand, if he were really lucky.  You also see near-perfect
>>>M7s at $1600-1700 going up against brand new ones for close to $2600.
>>>It's hard to sell new equipment as an investment in lifetime enjoyment
>>>when customers see price drops that steep.
>>>
>>>As recently as last year you could invest in good condition, clean used
>>>Leica stuff and more or less get your money back when you decided to
>>>sell.  That ain't the case today--and with more than 50% of the new
>>>equipment market in the US going for digital in 2003, I doubt it's going
>>>to get much better for Leica equipment.
>>>
>>>Jim Shulman
>>>Bryn Mawr, PA
> 
> 

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Message from Rei Shinozuka <shino@panix.com> ([Leica] used leica (was A new M lens))