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Subject: Re: [Leica] PHOTOGRAPHY; PHOTOGRAPHERS; Leicas
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:19:55 -0700
References: <006e01c373fa$7d82fae0$3e23fea9@ccasony01>

bd

Please explain to some of us less perceptive types just what these
"coded messages" were.

Jerry

bdcolen wrote:

> If you think that the old Life Magazine wasn't full of 'coded messages'
> in its photojournalism, I'd suggest you go spend some time in the
> library.;-)
>
> Actually, I'd suggest that for anyone with half-a-brain, or for anyone
> paying any attention - with or without at least half-a-brain - the
> attempts at manipulation are generally more obvious today than they ever
> were in the past.
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Saganich,
> Christopher/Medical Physics
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:05 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] PHOTOGRAPHY; PHOTOGRAPHERS; Leicas
>
> The difference isn't in the medium, (digital or traditional), rather
> delivery and consumption of images.  The image no longer has value as
> the end product, the value lies in its ability to be consumed by the
> masses and carry a specific message.  The message isn't the usual heroic
> realism, but, generally fear, violence, and perversion  masked as apple
> pie, security, and desire.  The average person is exposed to a
> staggering volume of purposely coded imagery compared to what we may
> call traditional photojournalism, at least in the States.  Europe seems
> a little more balanced in this regard.
>
> Chris Saganich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jrhedger@pdq.net [mailto:jrhedger@pdq.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:40 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] PHOTOGRAPHY; PHOTOGRAPHERS; Leicas
>
> I have had enough you are full of shite. Digital has contributed no more
> than photography or lying writers. In photography it just made it
> quicker and easier. Stop it.
>
> Jim
>
> On 9/5/03 1:59 PM, "Afterswift@aol.com" <Afterswift@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > In a message dated 9/5/03 10:35:19 AM, bdcolen@earthlink.net writes:
> >
> > << digital technology has worsened the picture by making it very easy
> > to further blur the distinctions between the reporting, and
> > government-spin, entertainment-advertising media
> >
> > HOW? >>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > By modifying normal stock images to sell products in magazines. The
> > same thing is done in government report illustrations and it's rampant
>
> > in advertising and entertainment. Just look at the posters and the
> > card ads on buses, etc. There isn't an untouched up photo in any of
> > those venues. There's a promo shot obviously enhanced of a buxom
> > working girl that is used in the Times to push retirement stocks.
> > Digital editing is used all over the place -- including even
> > on the LUG. I attribute that form of modification to mostly make an
> image
> > clearer on our monitors.
> >
> > br
> >
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