RE: [Leica] PHOTOGRAPHY; PHOTOGRAPHERS; Leicas

["bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

If you think that the old Life Magazine wasn't full of 'coded messages'
in its photojournalism, I'd suggest you go spend some time in the
library.;-)

Actually, I'd suggest that for anyone with half-a-brain, or for anyone
paying any attention - with or without at least half-a-brain - the
attempts at manipulation are generally more obvious today than they ever
were in the past.

B. D.

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Saganich,
Christopher/Medical Physics
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:05 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] PHOTOGRAPHY; PHOTOGRAPHERS; Leicas


The difference isn't in the medium, (digital or traditional), rather
delivery and consumption of images.  The image no longer has value as
the end product, the value lies in its ability to be consumed by the
masses and carry a specific message.  The message isn't the usual heroic
realism, but, generally fear, violence, and perversion  masked as apple
pie, security, and desire.  The average person is exposed to a
staggering volume of purposely coded imagery compared to what we may
call traditional photojournalism, at least in the States.  Europe seems
a little more balanced in this regard.

Chris Saganich

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From: jrhedger@pdq.net [mailto:jrhedger@pdq.net] 
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:40 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] PHOTOGRAPHY; PHOTOGRAPHERS; Leicas

I have had enough you are full of shite. Digital has contributed no more
than photography or lying writers. In photography it just made it
quicker and easier. Stop it.

Jim

On 9/5/03 1:59 PM, "Afterswift@aol.com" <Afterswift@aol.com> wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 9/5/03 10:35:19 AM, bdcolen@earthlink.net writes:
> 
> << digital technology has worsened the picture by making it very easy 
> to further blur the distinctions between the reporting, and 
> government-spin, entertainment-advertising media
> 
> HOW? >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> By modifying normal stock images to sell products in magazines. The 
> same thing is done in government report illustrations and it's rampant

> in advertising and entertainment. Just look at the posters and the 
> card ads on buses, etc. There isn't an untouched up photo in any of 
> those venues. There's a promo shot obviously enhanced of a buxom 
> working girl that is used in the Times to push retirement stocks. 
> Digital editing is used all over the place -- including even
> on the LUG. I attribute that form of modification to mostly make an
image
> clearer on our monitors.
> 
> br
> 
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