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Subject: Re: [Leica] Gun control
From: "Greg J. Lorenzo" <gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca>
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:20:52 -0600
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Hi Frank,

Me too, I'd much rather discuss Leicas, cameras, lens, enlargers and 
what's new in digital imaging.

Regards,

Greg

frank theriault wrote:

>Hi, Greg,
>
>Well, suffice to say that while we may agree on a few points, I strongly disagree with
>much of what you say.
>
>That being said, all I was trying to say in my previous post is that saying "guns cause
>crimes" is as facile and meaningless as "guns prevent crimes".
>
>I shouldn't have sent that post, as this is a Leica list, and Guns and Gun Control
>really needn't be discussed.  I allowed my emotions to get the better of me, and
>hopefully I won't let that happen on this list again.
>
>So that's it for me on the subject of Guns and Gun Control.
>
>thanks,
>frank
>
>"Greg J. Lorenzo" wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Well Frank, I don't know about elsewhere, but the asinine one billion
>>dollar Gun Registry (i.e. Gun Control) boondoggle that was recently
>>imposed upon the 99% law abiding gun owners in Canada by the most recent
>>estimate has created over one half million new criminals west of the
>>Ontario border alone. People in rural areas and smaller centres in
>>Western Canada use guns to legally hunt, for varmint control on their
>>farms and ranches or simply for target practice or to shoot skeet. Many
>>native Canadians, Metis and some rural peoples' use firearms in this
>>country to put food on their table.
>>
>>This new Gun Registry has not  proven to save a single life, reduce
>>crime in any measurable way and it certainly has not keep illegal guns
>>out of the hands of violent criminals who aren't going to register their
>>guns and would never have legally obtained a gun permit under the
>>previously stringent laws on hand guns and other conceal able firearms.
>>
>>It is considered by most Canadians, gun owners or not, as the single
>>largest waste of one billion dollars ever made in Canada and that is
>>saying something in a country which has been run since the days of
>>Lester Pearson by a revolving cast of clowns. Same damn circus,
>>different clowns!
>>
>>There is no question that access to hand guns and certain other firearms
>>needs to be regulated and restricted. Firearms within someone's home
>>need to be properly stored and locked away with ammunition locked away
>>in a separate location, but we had all of that long in place in Canada
>>and it is and was working as intended. Large cities would be wise to
>>seriously restrict or ban outright the ownership and storage of certain
>>firearms within their city limits and I believe most people would
>>support these type of measures but the Canadian Gun Registry is nothing
>>but an incredibly expensive joke being paid for by the very people who
>>don't want it!
>>
>>BTW, here in Alberta far and away knives and not guns are the weapon of
>>choice in bar fights, streetlights and domestic violence. If every gun
>>and knife in the country was to disappear in an instant people would use
>>clubs, rocks and hockey sticks when they intended to harm someone.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Greg
>>
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Message from frank theriault <knarf.theriault@sympatico.ca> (Re: [Leica] Gun control)