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Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: Re: No digital comments?
From: "Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:05:08 -0700
References: <f02000102-1026-EFF507D0CEAD11D7BA60000393D465D8@[10.0.1.3]>

Adam:

Just lovely.

Ted
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge@mac.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] RE: Re: No digital comments?


> I'm absolutely in a agreement with BD here. (Did I write that? Is that why
> there's a power failure? It was in anticipation of this?)
>
> I like many of the discussions here. I've learned a lot and been
encouraged to
> try many new techniques. This is good.
>
> I like my M6, especially for the portrait work I'm doing lately. I like
using
> TCN (which I learned to appreciate through discussions here. It's not
Leica film
> but it goes through my Leica camera.) I'd LOVE to have a digital M6, just
like
> many others have, because I'd like to keep the wonderful lenses.
>
> But I also know that the digital world has arrived. I work entirely in
> Photoshop. I scan all my negatives. I've been using TCN more and more
because I
> find I don't enjoy wet darkroom work all that much and find I can do
almost
> everything I need using my Coolscan 4000, Epson 2200, and/or Epson 1280
and
> piezography.
>
> So it makes all the sense in the world for me to want to see Leica make a
really
> GREAT digital camera - one at least as good as the 10D and one which could
fully
> exploit its line of lenses for either the R or the M.
>
> So we talk about the R back (due in 2004 when it will be even MORE behind
the
> times than it is now) and find it's frightfully expensive and doesn't
measure up
> to the 1Ds which is one fantastic camera, you can't look at the images it
makes
> and think it isn't.
>
> And I still don't have what really want: a digital M - a camera I want
because
> of it's form factor, its lenses, and its ease of use. A 1Ds is too big, to
> clunky, for me. I claim that autofocus is for whimps - but looking at the
images
> of children I shot last weekend I'd take all the AF I can get!
>
> I want to see people's work! I figure they hang out here because there's a
> certain sensibility we share in the choice of at least one camera we use.
I
> don't mind that BD posts images made with a Nikon or a Canon or a pinhole
camera
> because they are INTERESTING images. And I find many of the digital images
to be
> fascinating and worth my time to see.
>
> So let's NOT make this a Leica exclusive or we'll never talk about the
future,
> or explore how our equipment could be better, or how to process film
better, or
> even (gasp) what memory card might work best in our Leica digital camera.
Or
> even things we've learned to do in photoshop.
>
> adam bridge
>
> Here is a digital image:
>
> http://www.splitsecondfilms.com/PaloAlto/AileenSchwab.jpg
>
> Made with an M6, TCN400, shot at f2.0, scanned and photoshopped and
printed on
> an Epson 2200 (although this is a jpeg made from the film scan.) I don't
see
> anything wrong with wanting to make this by eliminating the film.
>
> ab
>
>
> On 2003-08-14 bdcolen@earthlink.net (bdcolen) thoughtfully wrote:
>
> >But I own them not because they are Leicas, but because they are the
> >best rangefinder cameras I could find, and they fit my shooting style.
> >My interest in photography is an interest in - photography. I want to
> >create outstanding images, and hope that once and a while I succeed. I
> >want to share my images with people with an interest in - photography. I
> >want to look at outstanding images, and care not with what they are
> >shot, because I know enough about photography to understand what counts
> >is the image, no the camera used to capture it. I also know enough about
> >photography to know that I can improve my own images by studying the
> >images of others, no matter what they were shot with.
> >
> >I chose to belong to this list because I share with people on this list
> >the use of Leica cameras, and because I have a number of friends here. I
> >am here because this is an interesting community.
>
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