Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/07/10
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I agree with Don, keep the Cannon 135, until you can spend the big bucks. You'll need to pick up a x1.25 magnifier if you have a .72 rangefinder or else focusing in low light will be a drag. With my .85 it is just acceptable. I was impressed with the Cannon 135, it is an above average performer.
Chris Saganich
http://www.saganich.com
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From: dorysrus@mindspring.com [mailto:dorysrus@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:06 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Opinions Please 135mm lens for M
David,
I think that unless you migrate to the 135 3.4APO you would be ill
served abandoning the 135 F3.5 Canon lenses you have. It is a very
close clone to the Zeiss 135 F4 which is still considered a fine
performer. Your Canon lens can be a fine performer especially by 5.6.
Obviously, with 50 year old lenses, your current sample may not be a
typical performer. I see no reason to venture into the indifferent
quality control of Soviet lenses when 135 lenses from Canon or Nikon are
widely available for not much more.
What I found is that you should use at the minimum an 85X viewfinder
camera. In other words, I find using an M3 with the 1.25 magnifier very
helpful when using my 135 Canon lens.
Don
dorysrus@mindspring.com
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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of SML
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:00 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Opinions Please 135mm lens for M
Hello Marc,
Are you sure of what you were saying about the 135/4 Elmar being
superior
to the 135/4 Tele-Elmar? I do not remember any single one user comments
about the Elmar being superior to the Tele-Elmar. I am wondering if you
meant the other way around.
Regards,
David
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From: "Marc James Small" <msmall@infionline.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Opinions Please 135mm lens for M
At 04:02 PM 7/14/02 -0600, Mike Stoesz wrote:
>Good day;
>
>I have recently been on a Leica buying/trading binge and have acquired
>2 Leica M-3's (a double-stroke and a single-stroke), and a Leica
>Standard. I have been using my Canon LTM lenses on the M's so far,
>(50f1.8, 50f1.2, 85f1.9, 100f4 chrome, 100f3.5 black/chrome, 100f3.5
>black, and 135f3.5 chrome).
>
>I wish to acquire a Leica 135mm lens for use at coffeeshops, stage
>shows, dance productions. Unfortunately the current 135f3.4 is out of
>my affordability range. How do the 135f2.8 Elmarit and the 135f4
>Tele-Elmar compare for my intended use. I am comfortable using Ilford
>Delta 3200 and Fuji Neopan 1600 as film choices and can use a monopod
>or shoulder brace if needed.
>
>What are the advantages/disadvantages of each of these lenses from
>personal experiences?
Neither would be the ideal choice. The 4/135 Elmar should be your first
choice, as it is optically a magnificent lens. If that is still beyond
your means, a Soviet/Post-Soviet 4/135 Jupiter-11 is quite close, albeit
this requires an adapter to work on an M camera.
I shot professionally for several years with a 2.8/135 and 4/135 Tele,
and
the results were okay. But those from the 4/135 Elmar and Jupiter-11
were
clearly superior -- and, bluntly, the 2.4/135 APO-Telyt (!) is a
generation
beyond any of these.
Marc
msmall@infionline.net FAX: +540/343-7315
Cha robh bąs fir gun ghrąs fir!
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