Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/07/06

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Piezotone & bwguys
From: BenMarks@aol.com
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:59:28 -0400

Phong:

I am no expert on this but here is what I know: The Piezotone inks are Cone's "new and improved" inkset.  You can choose a selenium hue or a neutral hue etc.  Some folks who started out with the PiezophotographyBW inks and then switched to Piezotone had trouble with print heads clogging (and subsequent banding) because of the way that the two inksets reacted in a given printer's ink feed lines.  Cone sells a set of carts filled with cleaning fluid to flush the lines of a printer when switching between the older inkset and the newer.

As for why they continue to refer to the discontinued process, your guess is as good as mine.  Maybe they are slow to update the site, or maybe as far as the software end of things goes (profiles and workarounds for the Epson drivers) it doesn't matter which inks you use. This is rank speculation as I am out of my league here.  I happen to like the old inks, had been happy with my results and stocked up on the ink when it was deeply discounted by inkjetmall.  Thus I have not had any problems associated with switching over (it ain't broke and I am trying not to fix it, if you know what I mean).

Some users also were unhappy with the way that the old PiezophotographyBW inks "set" on certain papers.  On the paper I use, prints warm over the first day or two and stabalize at a nice warm tone with good blacks (looks similar to platinum to my eye).  Once the prints go through this process, my experience has been that the prints are very stable.  I have prints hanging in my home, unmatted, behind glass which are going on two years old and which look great.  Not so for the prints made with Epson's black ink.  Fading was noticable after several months and some prints have degraded so much that they are just a waste of storage space.  Note that Epson's inks are (as I beleive Tina mentioned) dye-based rather than pigment based.

>I am trying to make sense of the situation with Piezography
>now that the original company is split into inkjetmall.com
>and bwguys.com, neither of whose website is particularly well
>designed to provide information about their product offerings.

>Inkjetmall claims that the new PiezoTone inks is not compatible
>with the discontinued PiezographyBW inks, and yet contiune to
>refer to PiezographyBW throuhgout their website.

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