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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Leica IIIc - First RF?
From: Seth Rosner <sethrosner@direcway.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:30:44 -0400
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Bingo. Me too Jerry.

Seth          LaK 9

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Leica IIIc - First RF?


> Rich
>
> Y'know I used LTM cameras from 1946 to 1959 without
> trimming commercial film.  Kodak, Ansco, and Agfa.  I used
> the leader as it came without taping it to the spool.  I thought
> the film trimmers were only used to prepare bulk loaded film.
>
> I never had a problem using commercially packaged film.
>
> Jerry
>
> tripspud wrote:
>
> > Hi Jerry,
> >
> >       Or get ABLON, the Leitz film trimmer for the screwmount cameras.
> > Around 50 to 60 dollars.  Interestingly, I had originally won an eBay
> > auction for a 'copy' of ABLON, but backed out of the deal because
> > the other end was not the right shape to cut the film to put into the
> > Leitz cassettes.  If the end is cut right, the design is such that
> > it is unnecessary to tape the film to the spool.
> >
> >       I'm still working on getting these Leitz cassettes to fit in my
> > Canon IVSb.  I've  had to do some filing down of the end knob
> > on the cassettes, as the Canon will not latch at the bottom
> > correctly without filing.
> >
> >       If you don't use an ABLON or it's aftermarket, be careful
> > in making the cut.  The angle can cause an overcut and it's
> > possible to tear the film.  A small piece of film can jam up
> > these cameras if it gets caught up in the mechanism.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rich Lahrson
> > Berkeley, California
> > tripspud@transbay.net
> >
> > Jerry Lehrer wrote:
> >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > "Spare takeup spool"?  I have never seen one for less than $20 US.
> > >
> > > I had to buy one to replace one that got "lost" on a sold Leica
> > > that was returned to me.
> > >
> > > Just pre-trim the ends on the rolls that you carry.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > Ken Wilcox wrote:
> > >
> > > > Uh Howard-
> > > >
> > > > Al you need do is trim the film leader before you go out for your
> > > > shot, and put it back into the container, or better yet, attach it
to
> > > > a spare takeup spool. Film loading is NOT a major factor.
> > > >
> > > > Ken Wilcox
> > > >
> > > > At 11:16 PM -0700 6/28/03, Martin Howard wrote:
> > > > >Marc James Small attempted to corrupt a poor, unsuspecting Leica
newbie:
> > > > >
> > > > >>The IIIc/IIIf is a wonderful
> > > > >>camera to use and the only advantage of this Bessa item is an
inbuilt
> > > > >>light-meter.  I generally use "Sunny 16" when I am outside, at any
event,
> > > > >>so I don't really see this as an overwhelming advantage for the
Bessa.
> > > > >
> > > > >Two words: Film loading.
> > > > >
> > > > >In the time it takes you to get out your pocket knife to trim the
> > > > >leader for the IIIc, our Bessa owner has loaded his camera and
taken
> > > > >three shots.
> > > > >
> > > > >By the time that you have opened your pocket knife, sliced off the
> > > > >tip of your left hand's index finger, cut the leader, refolded and
> > > > >replaced your pocket knife, managed to wiggle the take-up spool out
> > > > >of the bottom of the camera, dropped the take-up spool, hunted
> > > > >around on your hands-and-knees on aunt Martha's shag carpet for the
> > > > >take-up spool, pried the take-up spool from aunt Martha's
possessive
> > > > >Yorkshire terrier's growling fangs, got the film leader into the
> > > > >take-up spool, tried cramming the film and take-up spool back into
> > > > >the camera only to realize that you've fed the film leader into the
> > > > >take-up spool the wrong way, correctly aligned film leader into
> > > > >take-up spool, tried getting the now buckled film into the camera
> > > > >body, had to remove the lens and put the shutter on B and stuck
your
> > > > >fingers (which are now trying to simultaneously maintain pressure
on
> > > > >the shutter release, juggle a Russian 35mm Biogon copy, the take-up
> > > > >spool, a film reel, the IIIc, and a baseplate, all without
> > > > >scratching the huge, bulging rear element of the lens, or dropping
> > > > >anything within reach of the Yorkshire terrier) through the lens
> > > > >mount to guide the film into place over the sproket wheels which
are
> > > > >carefully hidden from view, remounted the lens, remounted the
> > > > >baseplate, and wound on the film gingerly hoping that it isn't
going
> > > > >to pull off the take-up spool so that you have to do the whole
thing
> > > > >once again, our Bessa owner has shot six rolls of film, had them
> > > > >developed, printed ten images, won a photographic competition with
> > > > >one of his shots, and bought an M6TTL .58x with the prize money.
> > > > >
> > > > >Yes, the LTMs are very nice cameras (I owned and shot with a Leica
> > > > >II) -- but just *perhaps* the Bessa has other advantages than a
> > > > >built-in light meter.
> > > > >
> > > > >M.
> > > > >
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> > > >
____________________________________________________________________________
______
> > > > Ken Wilcox
> > > > Recue a Greyound! Call 1.800.GO HOUND
> > > > klw.51 at comcast.net                                           or
> > > > visit www.rescuegrayhounds.com
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In reply to: Message from Martin Howard <mvhoward@mac.com> (Re: [Leica] Leica IIIc - First RF?)
Message from Ken Wilcox <klw.51@comcast.net> ([Leica] Re: Leica IIIc - First RF?)
Message from Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net> (Re: [Leica] Re: Leica IIIc - First RF?)
Message from tripspud <tripspud@transbay.net> (Re: [Leica] Re: Leica IIIc - First RF?)
Message from Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net> (Re: [Leica] Re: Leica IIIc - First RF?)