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Subject: RE: [Leica] Digital Back - I like the first step!
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:47:01 -0400

I LOVE this - Leica is now saying that 10 mgp is 'enough' to produce
Leica quality film performance? 

Austin, any thoughts? ;-)

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Simon Lamb
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:05 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital Back - I like the first step!


SNIP
Really, it sounded pretty good to me already and I'm sure they will do a
good deal of refining and tweaking before it hits Photokina

Frank

You need to read the transcript.  It has been categorically stated that
the spec. will not change since the designs are finalised and the
proejct estimated and costed.  Also, Leica believe that 10MP is enough
and the quality is there (well, it is if Kodak do a better job than they
did on the
14n!)

Simon

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From: "Frank Farmer" <frankandaubrey@mindspring.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital Back - I like the first step!


> Greetings all,
>
> I also have to agree with Doug and Ed.  For several reasons:
>
> First, I don't even own a R camera and only have one M6TTL.  But the 
> idea
of being able to switch from a digital SLR to a film SLR is attactive to
me. Mainly because I could use Leica glass, which I've come to know and
love just as everyone else has, without limitation.  I switched to the M
from a sizeable Nikon system and have enjoyed the switch.  However, I
do, at times, miss using some of the features of my F100 .  For that
reason, I've been in the market (just snooping really) for a SLR to use
for Macro work.  Until now, I'd been considering Contax cameras for this
purpose.  However, with the intro of a digital back for the R8/9(whether
I use it or not) Leica has made their SLR line more attractive to me
because the option of going to a DSLR is there.  Expensive, but there.
>
> Speaking of expensive, the argument about the cost of the back, coming
from this group, is less than pursuading.  Granted, we don't all have
+/- $7,000.00 to drop on a camera and back, but come on folks - Leicas
are EXPENSIVE!  Even electronic ones. They always have been and will
continue to be hence forth and forevermore.  Too bad really.  But a $200
rewind knob for the MP?  I think they hit the reasonableness target much
closer to the bull's eye on the Digital Modul R than on the Leicavit - M
or the rewind crank.  Now, I'm not saying that Leica should just charge
the stratospheric prices willy nilly.  I know they have costs and
profits to worry about and they aren't a giant company with seeminly
bottomless resources like Canon, for example.  So, I understand - to a
degree.
>
> Basically, my hopes mirror those of Ed.  Mainly, that this is not 
> actaully
the finished product.  Really, it sounded pretty good to me already and
I'm sure they will do a good deal of refining and tweaking before it
hits Photokina.  But, I say "way to go Leica."  It seems like they were
sinking rapidly in the world of digital and while this will not put them
in the lead in that market, it will sustain them, in my opinion, for the
near future. It will also offer them a platform from which to expand
both their digital and film SLR products without limiting either
endeavour.  What they do after that is up to them.  Hopefully, they will
continue to work on new products and new lenses for both R and M.  These
are just my ramblings.
>
> Let the flames begin . . . ;-)
>
> Frank
>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: "caliguri@rcn.com" <caliguri@rcn.com>
> Sent: 06/25/03 05:10 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: [Leica] Digital Back - I like the first step!
>
> >
> > Well -
> I have to agree with Doug Herr - in essence, I don't think it will be 
> the same back you will be able to buy next september. I think it's 
> more than a starting point, but not a finished product.  This is 
> Leica's way of saying ' Hey - we are on this - we won't abandon you R 
> shooters who want a digital back -- this is NOT a finished product, 
> but it will be by Photokina.' It may be very different by the time it 
> hits the street . I think it will be. But I LOVE the idea - I'll 
> dedicate a body to it! No one will be switching backs in the heat of a

> sports shoot. SD cards will be the same capacity as CF cards (if they 
> stay with SD cards!), and a finder screen masked off with a 'shaded' 
> area would be great! Like the M, you can see what's coming in and out 
> of the frame. I'm glad they are not just talking, but showing, what's 
> developing behind the scenes. Then again, they can't win can they? 
> Tell us what's going on and show products in the pipeline, and people 
> complain - keep it secret, but just say it's on the way, and people 
> complain ;  loose - loose situation for Leica there. Meantime, film 
> gets better and better as well! I'm pretty happy about the whole 
> ordeal. Looks like they have a good thing on it's way!
> Ed
>
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