RE: [Leica] Some may find this of interest

["bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

Since you don't know what happened - other than the reported facts that
a 19-year-old female died under suspicious circumstances in the studio
of a 56-year-old male photographer, don't you suppose you might be a bit
premature wailing about the patriot act and other unrelated crap. Of
course other young women, whose deaths we know nothing about, have died
in the last few days, but that's hardly an excuse for somehow
rationalizing what happened to this young woman, whose death we have
heard about. Would you be expressing such outrage at the prurience of
society, and vindictiveness of prosecutors who may or may not be up for
re-election, and would you be as quick to offer plausible 'innocent'
alternative theories about the case if rather than photographer Bob
Shell, the 56-year-old man had been a Republican member of Congress?
Some how I doubt that you would

And Sally Mann, pornographer? I don't know about that, but I'll
certainly buy 'Sally Mann, who advanced her career on the naked backs of
her own children who were unable, as any young child is, to refuse to
participate as subjects for their Mom.' ;-)

B. D.

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In a message dated 6/14/03 8:26:45 AM, jbcollier@shaw.ca writes:

<< The article stated that he is accused of doing those acts while the 
victim was unconscious; in other words, aggravated assault and sexual 
contact without consent (i.e.: rape). There is also the inference that 
Bob may have supplied the drugs in question which would at least add 
the charge of manslaughter; perhaps even second degree murder depending 
any motive.

John Collier
 >>



You know what, papers love scandal.  Sells more papers.

Who knows what the real story is here.  Bob Shell perv freak?  Marion 
Franklin victim of Bob's evil ways?   Maybe Bob Shell was trying to help
someone who 
was addicted to drugs and rather than send her to a detox center he
enabled 
her, took photos of her, and she simply died at his studio.  Maybe Bob
was 
mainly a friend but fell helplessly in love with someone half his age
(lots of 
older men do this as they approach their male menopause).   Maybe the
drugs were 
forcefully administered to Marion, maybe they were into kinky sex/edge
play 
where one party consentually enters into the realm of semi or quasi 
consciousness, that is consentual but dangerous nevertheless.  Maybe her
being 
incapacitated meant that she was into bondage and that she was tied up
and not 
unconscious.   Who knows?


I do know that when a photographer goes from shooting simply flowers and

snapshots of clothed family you can get into the realm of a world of
shit.   
Photographers who shoot street protests can get clubbed, their leica's
actually 
bruised.  Photographers who shoots a verboten subject can get arrested, 
questioned, perhaps put on some secret governmental patriot act III list
of possible 
threat to the US.   Photographers who shoot unclothed subjects can
depending on 
where they live and what they shoot be accused or at least swiped with
the 
veneer of pornography.    Just look at what happened to Sally Mann and
her photos 
of children, naked children.  Sally Mann, pornographer?

I don't presume to know what happened in this case.  I don't know the 
motivations of the local police, or whether a prosecutor is up for
re-election or 
looking for higher office, or whether Bob is really a piece of pond scum
or a 
perpetrator of bad judgement by taking drugs and having sex with 19 year
old 
girl/women who take drugs as well.  In any case, involving a
photographer who 
shoots nudes, I always wait to hear all sides of the story.  Why?
Because it's 
such a titilating subject and in our sexually repressive society, facts
can 
often get lost in the way of scandal.

What is obvious is that a 19 year young women is dead.  And that is a 
tragedy.  Of course lots of 19 year old women died in the world the last
few days, 
most that we'll never hear about because they died in far away places
and died 
of starvation, war, as battered wives or whatnot.  They all have died
too young 
and I hope whoever was responsible in all their cases, get a taste of
justice 
in the end.


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