Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/05/29

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Subject: Re: [Leica] The new digital reality -
From: "korenman" <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:22:54 -0400
References: <005301c32627$02f9a100$0316fea9@ccasony01>

Hmm - I am all for the digi-revolution!
Used hassie equipment seems to dropping in price daily at KEH.com..
Photographers throw off your 6x6 cams and 220 backs .. I want them!

Eric

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:12 PM
Subject: [Leica] The new digital reality -


> Last night, during the American Masters documentary on Robert Capa, the
> comment was made that in the 30s, Capa and folks like him were excited
> by, and experimenting with, the new 35 mm photo technology and the new
> possibilities it offered. I was particularly struck by that, and thought
> - why was that transition really any different from the present
> transition between film and digital? And don't respond by telling me
> that the transition from film to digital represents a deterioration,
> because when you think about it, that's also precisely what the switch
> to 35 from 4x5 represented. But what the advent of the 35 mm camera -
> the Leica - gave people was a way to carry light-weight equipment and
> shoot quickly, which they hadn't been able to do previously. Yes, the
> digital SLRs are big and comparatively heavy - but not that big and that
> heavy. And they take the concept of shooting freedom to a new level -
> 
> Today is Thursday - Tuesday I got a phone call from an editor at a
> Brazilian high-tech mag asking if I could provide a portrait of an MIT
> professor - and get it to them by end of day today as a digital file.
> The prof was available at noon today. I shot him, drove home, downloaded
> the images to the computer, produced a Photoshop web page of 12 images,
> and had the images up on the web for the Brazilians to choose from by 1
> p.m. They then made a selection and gave me the dimensions and their FTP
> address, and they had a final image from me by three p.m. - just three
> hours after the shoot - (and during the three hours I also had a
> doctor's appointment and ran a couple of errands.)
> 
> Oh - and Tuesday I spent shooting for a freelance story I'm doing for a
> major U. S. newspaper, and by 5 p.m had 90 images on the web for the
> photo editor to look at. Why 90 images? The editor wanted to see my
> entire shoot to get a feel for how I work.
> 
> Would the results of both these jobs look better if shot with Ms and
> chrome, or Fuji color neg film? Probably. Would that difference be
> evident in the magazine or newspaper? No way - and I'd still be scanning
> the stuff from the Tuesday shoot. ;-)
> 
> The point of all this? You tell me. ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of eric
> korenman
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:04 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Slightly OT: C-41 b&w films
> 
> 
> Yup - my experience exactly.
> Although XP2 can yield an interesting grainy look when you want it. TCN
> skin tones are always creamy smooth and zero grain (well - dye clouds, 
> but y'know what I mean).
> 
> Any opinions on shooting TCN 400 at 250?
> 
> Eric
> 
> >From: "Jeffery Smith" <jsmith@dcc.edu>
> >Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> >Subject: RE: [Leica] Slightly OT: C-41 b&w films
> >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 14:46:07 -0500
> >
> >Let me just barge in here <g>. XP2 is susceptible to blown highlights 
> >when shot at 400. If you rate it lower, it blows them out even worse. 
> >If you rate it higher, it looks grainier. T400CN seems to be less 
> >likely to do this.
> >
> >Jeffery
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Rolfe 
> >Tessem
> >Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 2:03 PM
> >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >Subject: Re: [Leica] Slightly OT: C-41 b&w films
> >
> >
> >Ernest Nitka wrote:
> > > Oliver
> > > As others have said the XP2 just doesn't cut it anymore.
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >Ernie,
> >
> >What problems have you had with XP2 that lead you to that conclusion?
> >
> >Rolfe
> >
> >--
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> >rolfe@ldp.com     |     96 Morton Street
> >(212) 463-0029    |     New York, Ny 10014
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