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Subject: Re: [Leica] hand-held exposure rule
From: Mike Durling <durling@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 22:06:53 -0400
References: <000201c2fc7d$b1a928c0$6401a8c0@YOURF68DMBR429> <009501c2fc8a$464700e0$f640d642@clearsighjhm83> <001601c2fc97$7d06bcd0$065f3e04@lightning306>

I always figure that proper available light exposure is 1/8 wide open. 
If I were to use a faster shutter speed it would probably be 
underexposed anyway.

I do find that a few beers helps.  That way focus errors more than make 
up for camera shake.

Mike D

Don R. wrote:
> Joe;
> 
> I certainly endorse your "vodka" tripod approach.  That is a new one on me
> but it sounds much more convenient than carrying around a metal or
> carbon/carbon tripod.
> 
> Don R.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Codispoti" <joecodi@clearsightusa.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] hand-held exposure rule
> 
> 
> 
>>Some photographers may be able to hand hold at shutter speeds lower than
>>other people.
>>There are many variables involved:
>>
>>Focal length of the lens (the longer, the higher the speed should be).
>>Heart rate of the photographer.
>>Steadiness of hand (very calm people can shoot at lower speeds).
>>Healthy inner-ear (controls balance).
>>Wind conditions.
>>
>>My minimum shutter speeds is 1/250 sec. Below that, the results are less
>>that stellar.
>>A slug of vodka (or similar elixir) seems to improve conditions somewhat.
>>But a tripod is far better. Whenever possible I use one.
>>
>>I new a flamboyant Los Angeles photographer who claimed he could hand hold
> 
> a
> 
>>camera at 1 (one) sec. shutter speed. I challenged him to prove it to me
> 
> and
> 
>>I lost. It seems that he did "hand hold" the camera while it was resting
> 
> on
> 
>>a solid support such as a rock, ledge, or against a wall.
>>
>>Speaking of camera supports, I am not able to use a monopod. It seems that
>>when I close one eye and aim with the other, I lose my balance. Maybe one
>>"slug" is not enough.
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: "Oliver Bryk" <oliverbryk@attbi.com>
>>To: "Users Group Leica" <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>>Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 1:47 PM
>>Subject: [Leica] hand-held exposure rule
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Some years ago I tested that rule of thumb with my M6, using the latest
>>>models 90mm Elmarit and the 50mm Summicron. For the test I selected a
> 
> wire
> 
>>>mesh fence, topped with barbed wire, that surrounds a nearby electric
>>>substation (I wouldn't do this today) because I could not find a
> 
> textbook
> 
>>>white picket fence. I photographed a segment of fence and barbed wire
> 
> from
> 
>>a
>>
>>>distance of 10 meters, first with the M6 on a tripod an then hand-held.
>>
>>For
>>
>>>each series I made one exposure on Delta 100 at each shutter speed from
>>>1/1000 sec to 1/15 sec. I wrote each shutter speed on a sign that I hung
>>
>>on
>>
>>>the fence so that I would be included in the image.
>>>I had the film developed by a custom lab and viewed the frames,
> 
> projected
> 
>>>onto an easel, with the lab's grain analyzer. I found visible
> 
> differences
> 
>>in
>>
>>>sharpness between the images from hand-held and tripod-mounted exposures
>>
>>at
>>
>>>all shutter speeds slower than 1/250 sec. I did not repeat the
> 
> experiment
> 
>>at
>>
>>>smaller magnifications. Your mileage may vary.
>>>Oliver Bryk
>>>
>>>
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In reply to: Message from "Oliver Bryk" <oliverbryk@attbi.com> ([Leica] hand-held exposure rule)
Message from "Joseph Codispoti" <joecodi@clearsightusa.com> (Re: [Leica] hand-held exposure rule)
Message from "Don R." <don.ro@verizon.net> (Re: [Leica] hand-held exposure rule)