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Subject: Re: [Leica] hand-held exposure rule
From: "Don R." <don.ro@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 18:51:48 -0500
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Joe;

I certainly endorse your "vodka" tripod approach.  That is a new one on me
but it sounds much more convenient than carrying around a metal or
carbon/carbon tripod.

Don R.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Codispoti" <joecodi@clearsightusa.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] hand-held exposure rule


> Some photographers may be able to hand hold at shutter speeds lower than
> other people.
> There are many variables involved:
>
> Focal length of the lens (the longer, the higher the speed should be).
> Heart rate of the photographer.
> Steadiness of hand (very calm people can shoot at lower speeds).
> Healthy inner-ear (controls balance).
> Wind conditions.
>
> My minimum shutter speeds is 1/250 sec. Below that, the results are less
> that stellar.
> A slug of vodka (or similar elixir) seems to improve conditions somewhat.
> But a tripod is far better. Whenever possible I use one.
>
> I new a flamboyant Los Angeles photographer who claimed he could hand hold
a
> camera at 1 (one) sec. shutter speed. I challenged him to prove it to me
and
> I lost. It seems that he did "hand hold" the camera while it was resting
on
> a solid support such as a rock, ledge, or against a wall.
>
> Speaking of camera supports, I am not able to use a monopod. It seems that
> when I close one eye and aim with the other, I lose my balance. Maybe one
> "slug" is not enough.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> From: "Oliver Bryk" <oliverbryk@attbi.com>
> To: "Users Group Leica" <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 1:47 PM
> Subject: [Leica] hand-held exposure rule
>
>
>
> > Some years ago I tested that rule of thumb with my M6, using the latest
> > models 90mm Elmarit and the 50mm Summicron. For the test I selected a
wire
> > mesh fence, topped with barbed wire, that surrounds a nearby electric
> > substation (I wouldn't do this today) because I could not find a
textbook
> > white picket fence. I photographed a segment of fence and barbed wire
from
> a
> > distance of 10 meters, first with the M6 on a tripod an then hand-held.
> For
> > each series I made one exposure on Delta 100 at each shutter speed from
> > 1/1000 sec to 1/15 sec. I wrote each shutter speed on a sign that I hung
> on
> > the fence so that I would be included in the image.
> > I had the film developed by a custom lab and viewed the frames,
projected
> > onto an easel, with the lab's grain analyzer. I found visible
differences
> in
> > sharpness between the images from hand-held and tripod-mounted exposures
> at
> > all shutter speeds slower than 1/250 sec. I did not repeat the
experiment
> at
> > smaller magnifications. Your mileage may vary.
> > Oliver Bryk
> >
> >
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