RE: [Leica] fired for photoshopping

[Henry Ting <henryting10@yahoo.com>]

I agree with you in looking at this issue from a
professional's ethical position. However, what I'm
trying to say is, even genuine news pictures can
portray a very different reality. We have seen it
before i.e., a nude Vietnamese girl running away from
a battle scene with such trauma, that the image
changed the world's perception of the Vietnam war
forever. Now in reality, how many of these instances
of a nude girl scenario actually took place. The
photographer was lucky in bagging a "once in a
lifetime picture" and believe me, there would perhaps
be hundreds of images more dramatic than the nude
girl's that escaped the camera's lens.

- --- bdcolen <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> What we're talking about here Henry, is not whether
> photos are used for
> propaganda purposes, not whether photos "lie" or
> tell some kind of
> objective "truth." What we are discussing is whether
> we should be able
> to trust that what we see in the newspaper or
> magazine is all, or a
> portion of the photo which the photographer actually
> took - a single
> exposure of film or pixels.
> 
> B. D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On
> Behalf Of Henry Ting
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:15 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] fired for photoshopping
> 
> 
> Jounalism pictorials were used ever since
> photography
> was invented for publicity and "propaganda". I'm not
> saying a picture does not lie or whether it portrays
> reality, but stating a pictorial content should
> represent the absolute truth is kind of stretching
> it.
> Just like our TV newscast. I wouldn't trust heresay
> a
> 100% either.
> --- GeeBee <graham@geebeespaw.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > I accept "spin" as a reality in just about
> > everything I read in the
> > newspapers, isn't that "ProseShopping". If the LA
> > Times guy had
> > "PhotoShopped" a herd of elephants in and the
> > picture was run under a
> > headline "Hannibal Hussein moves the 43rd
> Pachyderm
> > Regiment to the front"
> > that would obviously be unacceptable but it seems
> a
> > little unfair to me to
> > expect such high standards from press
> photographers. Particularly when
> 
> > large sections of those that disseminate the news
> seem, to
> > me at any rate,  exempt
> > from such high ideals for a lot of the time.
> > 
> > --Graham
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: "Slobodan Dimitrov" <sld@earthlink.net>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: 03 April 2003 07:50
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] fired for photoshopping
> > 
> > 
> > > Sometime ago, a publisher of the LA Times,
> stated
> > that it's the paper's
> > > duty to be engaged in social engineering. I got
> > the impression that
> > > anything was permissible under that declaration.
> > > Slobodan Dimitrov
> > >
> > > Frank Filippone wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And what do you read in a newspaper or see in
> > paid advertising that is
> > 100%
> > > > truth?  Why should photography be the only
> 100%
> > truth?
> > > >
> > > > Apropos the comment about a Pulitzer for
> > unmanipulated images... are you
> > > > sure there has never been any darkroom "magic"
> > done to improve a
> > Pulitzer
> > > > winning picture?  It is only the amount of
> that
> > manipulation that seem
> > to
> > > > bother people.
> > > >
> > > > It is all perception.
> > > >
> > > > Frank Filippone
> > > > red735i@earthlink.net
> > > >
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