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Subject: [Leica] The Leicavit-M - fact v uninformed opinion
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:12:32 -0500

Sal is certainly correct in stating that I have no hands on experience
with the competing winders. I have been using a pair of Abrahamson
winders for a couple of years now, am not at all kind to them, and find
that they operate flawlessly. Period.

And - for the record - while Sal has a close professional relationship
with Leica, I don't for a minute think he would be telling us something
about the equipment if he did not fervently believe it. :-)

B. D.


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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Sal
DiMarco,Jr.
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:38 AM
To: LUG >for posts
Subject: [Leica] RE: BD & The Leicavit-M


Luggers,
    When the original question was posed to BD Colen, (Did he have any
hands on experience to evaluate the new Leicavit-M?), my intent was to
question his unsubstantiated negative comments.
    While, he may very well be correct. WITHOUT direct experience his
statement is meaningless.
    When anyone says anything positive about a Leica product, BD is the
first one to question their motives. Remember his attack on Erwin Puts,
and more recently, his questioning of  Tina Manley's motives about her
positive comments on the Digilux?
    One can not have it both ways. If he wants to question everyone's
positive comments, I want to question his negative comments.
    The Leicavit-M at this point in time,  is an untested item. There
are very few people on this list who are qualified to offer an unbiased
comparision of all three.
    Jerry Lehrer stated he has used the original Leicavit-MP and Tom
Abrahamsson's Rapidwinder and prefers Tom's winder. This is a vaild
comment.
    On the other hand, I have been using Leicavit-MPs on all my M
cameras since 1971. I've had my M4s and M6s modified to accept the
Leicavits and keep the three prong loading. Also, I have and use a
Rapidwinder. It is smooth, efficient, and works very well, but I prefer
the Leicavits. Tom knows this, and I rentlessly tease him about it. This
is a valid comment also.
    For the record, I have given presentations for Leica, done some
consulting for them, and have an excellent working relationship with
them on both sides of the Atlantic. This does not mean, I will not be
critical of the company, always accept the "company line." Constructive
criticism is always helpful.
    End of comment.
    A question, please... Someone stated Cosina "owns the Patent" on the
lock mechanism Leica used on the Leicavit-M. This doesn't make sense.
(to me at least)  How? Please explain further. Happy Snaps, Sal

Sal DiMarco, Jr.
Philadelphia, PA
Web Site: http://members.fcc.net/sal.dimarcojr

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