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Subject: Re: [Leica] ACLU and Your Right To "Keep Pushing That Shutter"
From: S Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:24:40 -0800
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Who would of thought, in NJ no less!
Slobodan Dimitrov


PhotoNewsNetwork wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> In NJ, our "Press Credentials" are issued by "New Jersey Press Association,
> New Jersey Broadcasters Association, New Jersey Cable TV Association, in
> cooperation with New Jersey State Police" (quote is from the individual and
> vehicle id). Application for credentials is not to the NJSP, but to the NJ
> Press Association which administers the program.
> Take care,
> Pat McKee
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] ACLU and Your Right To "Keep Pushing That Shutter"
> 
> > I may be missing something here, Slobodan, but as far as I know, for at
> > least the last 35 years in most major cities if there are "official"
> > press credentials, they have been issued by the cops. In the past they
> > certainly didn't involve that kind of background check, but the only
> > press credential that would do any good was an "official" one - issued
> > by D.C. cop, NYC cops, etc. After all, what do you need a press
> > credential for, other than to get past police and fire lines? If not at
> > something controlled by the cops, any employer issued ID will do.
> >
> > On the other hand, you're right that we don't want the cops controlling
> > the press....
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of S Dimitrov
> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:05 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] ACLU and Your Right To "Keep Pushing That Shutter"
> >
> >
> > Yeah, yesterday I got my new press credential sticker for 2003-2004. It
> > makes me grit my teeth to see that the issuing agency is the LAPD and
> > not a press association, or some such industry or professional
> > organization.
> > The initial application requires a three month investigation of one's
> > national records by the police department. Never mind owning a camera,
> > what about the here and now with the McCain snitch chip in our TVs, and
> > the snitch software in our computers. It's probably putting a smile on
> > Goebbel's crisped face. It makes his limited range radio look Neolithic,
> > and that was just a couple of generations ago. Slobodan Dimitrov
> >
> >
> > bdcolen wrote:
> > >
> > > I would not be posting this were it not for this on-going "horrors of
> > > keeping us snapping" thread.....
> > >
> > > But if you folks think THIS is bad - you obviously didn't watch Bill
> > > Moyer's NOW last night, nor did you see the little AP story about the
> > > same subject in some of today's papers:
> > >
> > > Your "Justice" Department is working on a second go-round of "Der
> > > Homelander Sekurity Act" which would, among other things, allow for -
> > > * Secret arrests;
> > > * Stripping of citizenship;
> > > * Warrentless wiretaps
> > > And the list goes on and on. This proposed law has apparently been
> > > sent to ONE member of Congress - Speaker "Denny" Haster, and VP
> > > Channey for comment, but has not been sent to any members of the
> > > Judiciary Committees in either House or Senate.
> > >
> > > If you don't like the fact that there are some places they are
> > > stopping us from taking photos, just wait - another year or so and you
> >
> > > won't be allowed to own a camera. ;-)
> > >
> > > Here's where to find the draft "Justice" Department act -
> > > http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/patriot2-hi.pdf
> > >
> > > B. D.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Adam
> > > Bridge
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:35 PM
> > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject: RE: [Leica] ACLU and Your Right To "Keep Pushing That
> > > Shutter"
> > >
> > > On 2/8/03 Tim Atherton  wrote:
> > >
> > > >interestingly useful, especially after the police in Lewiston Maine
> > > >recently banned all cameras from a demonstration (because they were
> > > >considered a terrorist threat) unless they were carried by previously
> >
> > > >registered Media...
> > >
> > > I'm hoping that, after the fact, this was taken up with the local
> > > government and revoked. Do you know if it was?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Adam
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