Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/01/22

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: M motor drive/winder/RabidWinder
From: John Collier <>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:58:12 -0700

I have had winder/motors on three different Ms and they all were 
slightly different. My 0.72 TTL has no bounce whatsoever and you cannot 
"stop" the winder/motor by holding the release down. Another M gave 
symptoms similar to shutter bounce if you used speeds slower than 1/50 
and continuous firing. Another one would occasionally lock up and you 
would have to remove the winder/motor to get everything working again. 
I have said many times before and I will say it again: there needs to 
be an electronic switch in the camera that lets the winder/motor start 
its cycle after the shutter has finished its cycle. Until that time, I 
will only use my wider/motors with speeds above 1/50.

RapidWinders, on the other hand, work perfectly with no problems. So 
that is what is mounted on my cameras 99.99% of the time.

John Collier

On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Austin Franklin wrote:

> 1) you can see the shutter release bounce by simply shooting and 
> keeping
> pressure on the shutter button and manually winding.

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