Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/01/17

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Apple for a died in the wool Windows guy
From: Johnny Deadman <lists@johnbrownlow.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:00:53 -0500

Well that is a very particular definition of 'real world' computing. It 
is hardly surprising that a software engineering guy who has to support 
wintel systems might want to have a PC around. It is rather a large 
leap from that to saying that everyone needs both.

JB


On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 11:26 AM, Henry Ting wrote:

>
> Mark, depending on your line of work with Cisco. For
> regular stuff "plug & play" is feasible, but if you
> are into software engineering, I very much doubt
> lugging the iBook will get you very far
> trouble-shooting for your global customers. Even at
> Apple where I once worked, you need a PC trying to
> integrate with OEM suppliers outside of the Apple
> domain. Another example is the incorporation of SAP
> into Apple's business systems and it took over 5 years
> because of the Apple culture that demanded the GUI
> front end running strictly on the Mac. Instead of just
> using the SAP software, Apple had to spend millions
> rewriting a lot of the SAP GUI modules, and then it
> became obsolete when the modifications were done
> because the rest of the SAP world moves forward
> continuously, to a point SAP now says they cannot
> support Apple's customized modules.
>
> --- Mark Kronquist <mak@teleport.com> wrote:
>> My 15 iBook travelled to 41 states and  countries
>> last year. with Soft PC it
>> was plug and play (OS X) everyhere but on one or two
>> old Novell LANs and
>> there all they had to do was install a Mac driver on
>> the server. Airport
>> (WiFi) makes integration even easier
>>
>>
>>> In the real world, you do need a PC. When I was
>>> working for Apple (consulting), projects and
>>> applications were all integrated with the Mac. No
>>> problem there. But in our globalization of
>> business,
>>> if you lug your Powerbook to different parts of
>> the
>>> world, chances are you're waisting precious time
>> just
>>> trying to integrate your Mac to a different
>>> environment, if at all successfully on even
>> projects
>>> relating to Apple. You really should look at the
>>> world, or as Steve Jobs inappropriately trying to
>> have
>>> us believe that Mac users, "THINK DIFFERENTLY".
>>>
>>> --- Adam Bridge <abridge@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/16/03 Henry Ting  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually you need both systems. Trust me,
>>>> regardless
>>>>> of what Steve Jobs says.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gee - all these years and now I find out I need a
>>>> PC.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
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