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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Opinions on the Performance of the Tele-Elmarit - M 90 f2.8 Lens?
From: S Dimitrov <>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:57:38 -0800
References: <> <000b01c2a7df$f3237cd0$0300a8c0@dad>

Well, I have to admit that my tests were never so extreme. All I used
mine on were shots of talking heads with sky in the background, with a
smattering of site shots. 
The lenses always, always let me down. The only other comparison I had
at the time was a 105mm Nikkor. Ultimately, I sold off the last 90 TE,
with it's internal spongy coating problem and stayed with the 105mm.
That was 12 years ago. I eventually sold off the Nikon gear,  only
keeping my 120 gear for commercial shooting.
Only now with the R8, have I tried to re-intregrate my Leica gear into
my editorial work. 
The last very real problem, 3 years ago, with a 90 was with the pre-apo,
last version 'cron. It too, wide open, had a hideous flare problem. I
sold that too and finally settled on the last version of the 90
Elmarit-R. A decision I never regretted.
In particular, I had problems with the lens numbers from the period that
the Leitz family allowed the company to sink into a toilet hole. I avoid
those years like the plague, no matter how good sounding the deal might be.
Slobodan Dimitrov

tlianza wrote:
> Hi All,
> I was puzzled when I read these two comments about flare in the TE. Whenever
> I travel, I take that lens and it has never let me down
> > Hi Greg: I have the Tele-Elmarit and if you use it when the light is soft
> > and even, it works great, the problem begins when you have very bright
> areas
> > near the picture zone, because then you get  flare, and I use the lens
> hood.
> > So there it is my experience with the lens.
> > If you do not get flare, the performance is acceptable, good definition,
> > sharp enough.
> > What I like is the size and the price.
> >
> > Forget shooting contre-jour with it. It'll flare out like nobody's
> business.
> > The new Elmarit-M blows it out of the water as though it was hit by a
> > double barrel blast.
> > I even prefer shooting  with the Elmar over that F2.8.
> Here are two images taken last month off the northen coast of California
> around sunset.
> As far as sharpness, it compares very favorably (particularly on axis) with
> my 90mm f2 summicron (pre -ASPH). As a matter of fact, after about three
> rolls of side by side images on negative and transparency media, I decided
> the weight of the Summicron just didn't justify carting it around. (The
> performance of the 75mm Summilux DOES justify carting it around...)  From
> what I understand the Elmarit-M is a phenomenal lens, but in my opinion,
> this little guy carries his own weight (which is very light by the way) and
> they are very reasonably priced (for a leica lens.....)
> As far as flare and internal reflections, the two images didn't show that
> tendency.  I had no lens hood on for either image but I did have a filter
> because the wind was rather strong and the sand was beating the equipment.
> Tom Lianza
> Technical Director
> Sequel Imaging Inc.
> 25 Nashua Rd.
> Londonderry, NH 03053
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