Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/12/02

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Bicycle metaphors
From: Michael Cahill <mcahill@laurelgroup.com>
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 09:39:37 -0500

On 11/29/02 11:00 AM, "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Let me make sure I understand this...It is entirely inappropriate to
> post digital images to this list because it is the LyKa list...but it IS
> entirely appropriate to have drawn out discussions of bicycle
> construction?
> 
> ;-)
> 
> B. D.
> 
> Leica Image = A photograph produced using a camera/lens combination
> manufactured by Leica, taken by someone suffering from the delusion that
> that camera/lens combination is the only equipment configuration to
> produce images worthy of attention or discussion; and also suffering
> from the additional delusion that using such an equipment configuration
> makes said person an outstanding photographer.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Stuart
> Phillips
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:37 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Bicycle metaphors
> 
> 
> John,
> As a member of the HUG where Austin is also a frequent poster, I must
> point out in Austin's defence that he has been a designer of digital
> equipment for over 250 years, and that like religion, there is nothing
> that cannot be clarified by analogy with digital technology : )
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Collier" <jbcollier@shaw.ca>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:03 AM
> Subject: [Leica] Bicycle metaphors
> 
> 
>> Austin,
>> 
>> I have no problems with your conclusions about Leica M cameras;
>> however, your knowledge of bicycle frames can only be described as
>> limited. The materials use in frame construction cannot only be chosen
> 
>> on the basis of lightweight. The old Teledynes (titanium) and Kirks
>> (cast magnesium) certainly proved that! It is only in the last year or
> 
>> so that the use of aluminium and carbon fiber has matured to point
>> where they can give ride qualities approaching that of a well designed
> 
>> steel bike. Lightweight is very nice but not if it punishes the rider
>> over every road irregularity.
>> 
>> As to craftsmanship, there is no contest. Nothing can touch a steel
>> bike with handmade lugs.
>> 
>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Colnago_Arabq.htm
>> 
>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/Sachs_Mikes_2.htm
>> 
>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/bigdbVM.htm
>> 
>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/Hetch_28114.htm
>> 
>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/Mercn_DBs_vin.htm
>> 
>> John Collier
>> 
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Touche',  BD
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Michael Cahill
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