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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: 50mm Voigtlander (WAS: Nathan's PAW 47: I got my 21mm lens!)
From: "Jeffery L. Smith" <jsmith45@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 16:10:10 -0600
References: <3DDFF93C.6080009@webshuttle.ch> <002f01c2933f$f45aa880$6601a8c0@sphillips> <3DE08500.9080203@webshuttle.ch> <5.1.1.6.0.20021124104158.01f221d8@mail.msy.bellsouth.net>

Thanks for the feedback. I decided to do the journal when it occurred to me 
that some viewers might either ask (1) why the hell did you shoot that?, or 
(2) Which lens did you use for that?

I usually don't post PAW notices on the LUG because I have a tendency to 
use Hexanon lenses, a sore point for Leica purists. If I do post a PAW 
notice on the LUG, I bury the technical details in the journal so that 
someone has to actually go digging to get offended. ;-)

Jeffery

At 12:30 PM 11/24/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't think the bokeh is objectionable - and it's a great shot. By
>coincidence, I was looking at your PAW yesterday (amongst others) and I
>particularly liked the journal feature - not just for technical details
>although in cases like this they're useful but for the whole situation. The
>info is there, but it's separated. You get it either way.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeffery L. Smith" <jsmith45@bellsouth.net>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: 50mm Voigtlander (WAS: Nathan's PAW 47: I got my
>21mm lens!)
>
>
> > This was taken with the Nokton. I have seen better bokeh, but it doesn't
> > annoy me all that much.
> >
> > http://www.jeffery-nola.com/PAW_25.html
> >
> > Jeffery Smith
> >
> > At 11:22 AM 11/24/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Thanks Nathan, I wondered if it was the Nokton. I was interested because
>of
> > >course it's an interesting alternative to a Summilux or even a Noctilux.
> > >Were any PAWs or images on your site taken with it by any chance?
> > >
> > >Thanks for the info.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Nathan Wajsman" <wajsman@webshuttle.ch>
> > >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > >Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:51 AM
> > >Subject: [Leica] Re: 50mm Voigtlander (WAS: Nathan's PAW 47: I got my
>21mm
> > >lens!)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Stuart,
> > > >
> > > > It was the current 50mm Voigtlander Nokton. The images were sharp
> > > > enough, but the bokeh (out-of-focus rendition) was extremely harsh and
> > > > ugly. I know that there is controversy about this concept and do not
> > > > wish to start another long thread about it, but for me bokeh does play
>a
> > > > part in lens evaluation. So I sold the Nokton and got a Summilux
>instead.
> > > >
> > > > With a 21mm lens the bokeh is irrelevant, since nothing is really out
>of
> > > > focus anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Nathan
> > > >
> > > > Stuart Phillips wrote:
> > > > > Nathan,
> > > > > Can I ask you which Voigtlander 50mm you owned and why you found it
> > >wanting?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan Wajsman
> > > > Herrliberg (ZH), Switzerland
> > > >
> > > > e-mail: wajsman@webshuttle.ch
> > > > mobile: +41 78 732 1430
> > > >
> > > > Photo-A-Week: http://www.wajsman.com/indexpaw2002.htm
> > > > General photo site: http://www.wajsman.com/index.htm
> > > >
> > > >
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In reply to: Message from Nathan Wajsman <wajsman@webshuttle.ch> ([Leica] Nathan's PAW 47: I got my 21mm lens!)
Message from "Stuart Phillips" <stuart.phillips@rcn.com> (Re: [Leica] Nathan's PAW 47: I got my 21mm lens!)
Message from Nathan Wajsman <wajsman@webshuttle.ch> ([Leica] Re: 50mm Voigtlander (WAS: Nathan's PAW 47: I got my 21mm lens!))
Message from "Jeffery L. Smith" <jsmith45@bellsouth.net> (Re: [Leica] Re: 50mm Voigtlander (WAS: Nathan's PAW 47: I got my 21mm lens!))