Re: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book

["Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@harbornet.com>]

Dave:

You might find some help at the following:

http://www.kbcamera.com/equipreview.htm

Also, asking specific questions on the list can, as you may already have
found out, bring some very informed answers.  There are people here who
have years of experience and knowledge and are willing to help.

All of the Leica equipment I own has been purchased on the
recommendations of those on this and a couple of other lists.  Saved me
a lot of trial and error, and a lot of money.

Ted






- ----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mason" <dcm@pobox.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book


> "Rob Appleby" <rob@robertappleby.com> writes:
>
>
> > I think Erwin does well for a non-native language speaker. I
couldn't write
> > as well in Italian, for instance.
>
> I think he does well too - but why be anglo-centric if perhaps one can
> express themselves better in another language? In this case we are
> talking about an article that was written as a piece of journalism -
> that of the review. I have no problem with the grammar, the
> punctuation, etc. I do have a problem (no matter what language it is)
> to attempt a technical review and talk about the designers studying
> the soul of the lens. That tells me absolutely *nothing* about what
> exactly they did and why. It tells me nothing in regard to what they
> used to do when designing lenses, and it tell me nothing about the
> difference between the Summicron and the Summilux (which is why I read
> it).
>
> > I have to admit to being taken aback by the lack of common decency
and
> > bullying tactics on this list, although I should be inured to it by
now. I
> > can't think of any other list where such low standards of behaviour
obtain.
> >
> > So far, none of his critics has done anything except fling mud at
Erwin. I
> > have to admit to finding lens reports meagre fare, and some of
Erwin's
> > statements about cameras and lenses are infused with a rather
laughable
> > fervour, but no-one can deny his achievement.
>
> Actually I've seen far worse lists and it amuses me how much time is
> spent on this list complaining about how bad it is. In fact, it amuses
> me.
>
> I was not flinging mud at Erwin, I was simply stating my negative
> reaction to the article in regard to how it was 'sold' to me. I could
> care less what language it is in.
>
> Other than this article I really don't know anything about Erwin or
> his writing. I don't spend all my time reading camera reviews - nor do
> I want to. This article was sold to me (via the author, the website,
> and this list) as one that would answer a question I am considering
> myself - what do the new Leica lenses offer me over the old ones - and
> how do the new lenses compare themselves. I find that Leica's own
> information on this to be very poor. Erwin's article gave me little
> information on whether I should spend money on new or save money on
> old. I would say the same about the article if you had written it,
> B.D. had written it, Marc had written it, or I had written it. I would
> still say the same thing if it was written in French, Spanish, Hindi,
> or "Southern". The fact remains, it didn't help me.
>
> Luckily I have this list to help me - and the closer I get to spending
> money on a new Leica system to replace my hodge-podge collection of
> Leica and Voigtlander parts I will most likely ask this list - it
> tends to be much more informative, even if everyone on it is a
> complete assh^H^H^H^H... scratch that.
>
>
> Dave
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