Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/07/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Those people hadn't entered the US. They were still outside of the country until they were actually on US soil. This happens to Cuban, or Haitian refugees when they try to get to the US. If they actually touch US soil they are protected by our laws, if they are turned back while still on board a boat, or raft, they aren't protected by our laws, even though they may be within the 12 mile limit. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffery Smith" <jls@runbox.com> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: RE: [Leica] airport security kinda really long. ;-) - Very OFF-TOPIC, but what the hey! > If you are a legal resident here, the Bill of Rights should apply. If you > are an illegal alien, then they don't. There was a case down here about 15 > years ago in which a ship came into port with about 6 stowaways from Haiti. > They had them in a cage in the ship. A Haitan lawyer (practicing law here) > demanded to go aboard and advise them of their rights. They told him to get > lost. He then tried to file a lawsuit on their behalf in the amount of ONE > BILLION DOLLARS FOR EACH STOWAWAY. Yes, that's right. Something like > $5,000,000,000. The court laughed him off (as did all of the local news > stations). I think they took the guys back to Haiti in a cage. > > JLS > > At 08:56 AM 7/11/02, you wrote: > > > Not true. The Bill of Rights, as well as all U.S. Constitutional rights > > > apply to ANYONE within the borders of the United States - citizen or not, > > > here legally or illegally. > > > >Really ? I didn't know that, not that I am an expert. > >I love this country. Only in America ! :-) > >You mean as far as the Bill of Rights are concerned, a non-US national has > >the Right to Keep and Bear Arms ? And that that cop in New York City had > >no rights searching thru my car, just because I was one of the organizers > >of a demonstration for Human Rights 20 years ago, and he just didn't like > >my face ? [Please excuse the capital letters, but this is my Religion.] > > > > > >- Phong > >Stateless for almost 20 years. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Bryan > > > Caldwell > > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:05 AM > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] airport security kinda really long. ;-) > > > > > > > > > On 7/11/02 3:34 AM, "Mike Cahill" <mcahill2@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > BTW, before we get into a hissy fit about the Bill of Rights, let's > > > > understand one thing; these rights are granted to the citizens of > > the US by > > > > the constitution, not foreigners here illegally. > > > > > > Not true. The Bill of Rights, as well as all U.S. Constitutional rights > > > apply to ANYONE within the borders of the United States - citizen or not, > > > here legally or illegally. (Unless, as we've seen recently, the person in > > > question is summarily deemed an "enemy combatant," in which case, > > apparently > > > Constitutional rights do not apply even if one is a U.S. Citizen.) > > > > > > >Not to be xenophobic, but by now, if the Justice department does not know > > > >the whereabouts and situation of every Arab national here in the US > > then we > > > >have a lot more to worry about than some petty violation of the Bill of > > > >Rights. > > > > > > Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't happen to think that > > > there are any "petty" violations of the Bill of Rights. > > > > > > Bryan > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >-- > >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html