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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: FOM 2/year 2
From: Jeffery Smith <jls@runbox.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 13:58:56 -0500
References: <617650DA-8EAD-11D6-A090-003065D4DE46@sohogurus.net>

I have to agree as well. I'm glad that FOM2 is supported (in spirit if not 
money) by Leica, but FOM2 should not be (IMO) a Leica promotional gimmick. 
If Leica fears competition, then it has less confidence in itself than the 
LUG has in Leica. As I understand it, the lens OR the body must be Leica, 
but both need not be Leica. I've shot pictures using my 28/2.8 Hexanon on 
the Hexar RF and on the M3, and I'll be damned if I can tell the difference 
between the two bodies by looking at the images.

Jeffery

At 01:24 PM 7/3/02, you wrote:
>Allan Wafkowski wrote:
>
> > I too have an uneasiness about the FOM2 only accepting Leica taken
> > photos. There is no way to enforce the demand. Any photo taken with any
> > camera and lens can be submitted. Are the entries going to be
> > authenticated by bokeh? Truth is, any slob with a point-and-shoot can
> > enter FOM2. The demand leads already weak human nature down the path of
> > dishonesty.
> >
> > Steve, I love your photos, but your logic for excluding non-Leica
> > cameras is weak. Leica is supporting FOM 2, but not financially? What
> > does that mean: We use $2000+ Leica cameras and $1200 Leica lenses and
> > Solms gives out a self-satisfied grin? LUG membership is required to
> > enter FOM2. Good. There is no reason to tamper with that requirement, so
> > we need not fear the "tens-of-thousands" of unwanted entries.
> >
> > A FOM2 that required LUG membership, but allowed any camera to be used
> > and what do you get: A bunch of people who love and use Leicas, but who
> > also like to take a shot with their Olympus XA-2 or whatever camera they
> > have at the moment, and if the shot comes out good, maybe send it to
> > FOM2.
> >
> > Allan
>
>
>Allan,
>
>Finally I'm pleased to agree with you at all. 100%.
>Good point.
>
>Hope FoM2 founder/s can review all that to free us all and get pictures with
>whatever the camera is. At last a project concerning such ambitious thing
>like THE Family of Man would have include human beings not camera brands.
>Now, if our beloved Solms guy would like to gladly and freely "sponsor" the
>project we could promise them to add the red dot somewhere.
>
>And, finally, if the project would open to a wider camera brands, or as you
>suggest, to be kept only to LUG members I'd welcome thousands of images.
>Probability to achieve better images would be found easier.
>I agree with some other who talked about many many images under an average
>quality. Then if we're intended to give the best of us we should permit more
>people to come in the project and so on.
>Otherwise the FoM2 project would going more on the way of a sort a humble
>PAW and not closer to what once used to be the original Family of Man.
>
>IMHO.
>
>Pablo
>
>
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