Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/05/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ah yes, and next the "Holodeck"...is it real or is it Memorex? Any technology that can be used for good can also be used for ill.... - --- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote: > I sure care - not that that surprises you: not so > much that it's a rewrite > of history as that it is a really appalling > cheapening of King's legacy. > This is not like using a rock icon's song to sell > cars, or the image of Fred > Astair's dancing on the ceiling being used to sell > vacuumed cleaners. This > is, rather, using a film clip of the most important > speech by the most > prominent leader of the civil rights movement to > sell the image of a > corporation. And not only is it taking the speech > totally out of context, it > is doing something that we can assume, based on his > record, King himself > would never have done, or approved of. > > But I have to say that while I am a huge fan of > King's - although I believe > that to some degree his role in the movement was > overblown - I am no fan of > the King family for the way they have commercialized > "the legacy" since his > death. > > Martin Luther King, Jr., was and should always > remain one of those rare > individuals throughout history whose person, and > legacy, belong to "the > people," rather than to his family. > > But that's just my opinion. > > BUT...if the King thing bothers you, wait until you > read what I'm sure will > be the AP pickup - and everyone else's rereporting - > of a story that ran in > this a.m.'s Boston Globe. Worried about the > photoshop alteration of still > photos? Fagedaboutit! MIT researchers have "taught" > a computer to produce > absolutely believable video footage of people saying > things they never said. > In other words, they can put words in someone's > mouth, show the footage to > test subjects, and have the test subjects unable to > tell the real footage > from the doctored footage. At this point they can > only do it with footage of > people speaking directly to the camera - as the > President does in one of his > addresses ;-) - but they are sure they will be able > to improve the > technology to the point where the angle won't > matter. What does all this > mean? That in the very near future we will be unable > to tell doctored video > from real video, and if footage of, say, a > Presidential candidate turns up > with the candidate saying something embarrassing, we > will never know whether > it is real, or a "dirty trick." > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On > Behalf Of George > Lottermoser > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:42 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Photoshop dilemma > > > abridge@idea-processing.com (Adam > Bridge)5/13/0211:47 AM > > > Thus cutting Lenin out of an > > image breaks the one for one relationship with the > original > photograph. Or > > moving a pyramid. Or adding several images from > other sources. > > > > Once the one-for-one is lost I contend that the > final work is > no longer a > > photograph. It's something else: a graphic art > perhaps. > > Apparently the owners of the Martin Luther King > estate have seen > fit to sell his words as well as images of him - for > advertising > messages. So we can now seem him making the "famous > speech" in a > totally new context and environment and hear the > words edited to > new purpose. Personally I see this as a rewrite of > history and > without integrity. These rewrites will affect a new > generation's > perception of history. Does anyone care? I do. Sad > way to make a > profit. > > George > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html