Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/05/12

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Photoshop dilemma
From: "Aram Langhans" <>
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 10:22:57 -0700
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Hi Ted.

I don't think anyone views a painting with the expectation that it
accurately reflects reality.  I do think that most people view a photography
with that expectation.  Perhaps it is because we all have those experiences
with our work.  When we draw/paint, most of us could never acheive a
reflection of reality, so we don't expect it.  If we take a snapshot we do
expect a reflection of reality.

Where do we draw the line?  It is getting harder and harder to decide.


> Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 16:37:56 -0700
> From: "Ted Bayer" <>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photoshop dilemma
> Message-ID: <01c801c1f944$fe371680$74a242cf@bayeramd>
> References: <>
> This is an interesting question - not just reserved for photographs.
> For example, I paint landscapes.  Do I paint everything I see in the
> scene?  Of course not.  I try to paint the subject as accurately as I
> can, but I may leave out something that might detract from it.  I
> may alter some of the colors, or perhaps feather out edges to make an
> object appear less sharp - sort of the same thing Sonny did with the
> background in this photograph (or rendition, whichever you prefer).

> If every picture or painting was painstakingly rendered to portray the
> subject exactly as it is, then, IMHO, we would be living in a very dull
> world indeed.
> Of course that doesn't answer the question of when is a photograph not a
> photograph.
> Perhaps that depends upon what the meaning of is is.
> Ted in Olalla

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