RE: [Leica] Epson 2000P, An update and another ?

[Darrell Jennings <darrell_jennings@yahoo.com>]

Very good point.  Are their inks/papers that are
better than what Epson offers for archival purposes?
I would be interested in how well they render Blank
and White photos, also in paper finish...I noted that
Epson only offers Matte finish archival paper, I
prefer glossy. 

Finally what do you mean by archival?  I think Epson
quotes 70 years... Is there something as good or
better?  

I also have seen many on the list mention having to
clean heads on the printers.  I've not had to do this
with my HP.  Is this an issue unique to Epson, or
simply the way most good printers work? 

Sorry for the 20 questions above, but there is a lot
to cover on this.  DJ
- --- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> One of the things that seems to be going on here is
> that people are talking
> about two very different things, and one group is
> unaware that there are two
> conversations going on:
> 
> Both groups use or want to use Epson printers, but
> one group takes its
> printers out of their boxes, inserts Epson
> cartridges, installs the
> printers, and prints images; the other group is
> using those same printers
> with third party inks and software - they may be
> called Epson printers, but
> in terms of their function and output, they aren't
> Epson printers.
> 
> So when you talk about archival inks, print
> longevity, print time, output
> resolution, etc., you have to know which group you
> are communicating with.
> 
> 
> B. D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On
> Behalf Of Darrell
> Jennings
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:48 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Epson 2000P, An update and
> another ?
> 
> 
> I'm not sure if I am looking at the same printer,
> but
> in viewing the Epson web site, the 3000 has a list
> price of $995 (seems like a refurbished machine
> would
> be a lot less than $900 if we are talking about the
> same machine), and does not say that it accepts
> archival inks.  It also is only a four color vs. six
> for the 2000.  Am I looking at the one you are
> referring to?  Any thoughts on how the four vs. six
> (or now with the 2200, seven) color machines work?
> 
> 
> --- Andrew Moore <dmm@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > >A question for all.  Does anyone other than
> Epson
> > make
> > > >a high quality archival printer for under $2000
> > that
> > > >makes prints of at least 11X14?
> > >
> > > Jon Cone has said that the 3000 is the perfect
> > printer for Piezography.  It
> > > is a big, workhorse of a printer and can do
> prints
> > larger than 11x14.  I
> > > bought my two refurbished on EBay for $900
> apiece
> > and have never had any
> > > problems with either one.  They have huge ink
> > cartridges so you don't need
> > > the Continuous Ink System.  All kinds of
> archival
> > inks in both black and
> > > white and color are available for the 3000.
> >
> > I finally decided on the 3000 mainly due to the
> > larger format (it will
> > print full 16 x 21 (i.e. none of that space taken
> up
> > by white borders),
> > and as tina mentioned the big cartridges are nice.
> > I was also glad to see
> > that the cartridges are individual ones, not one
> > conglomerate cartridge
> > containing all four colors.  That way when one
> color
> > runs out I'm not
> > forced to throw all of them away together.
> >
> > Now I'm just awaiting the correct piezo CD --
> should
> > arrive today -- (they
> > sent me the wrong one) and I'll finish up the
> > tests/flushing/etc. and
> > tonight I'll hopefully run my first print.
> >
> > Clear some space on the desktop; the printer is
> just
> > over 2.5 feet wide!
> >
> > I've heard complaints about the "pizza wheel
> tracks"
> > and the mechanism
> > that feeds the paper through (sometimes doesn't
> push
> > it through very well
> > and as a result the image gets compressed a bit)
> --
> > but I have yet to
> > determine if this is myth or reality.  Pizza wheel
> > problem is easy to fix
> > (remove them, plenty docs on the net about this).
> >
> >
> >
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