Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/03/11

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Re: re: Rapid Winders -TOTALLY ON TOPIC
From: Henry Ting <henryting10@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:14:39 -0800 (PST)

The subject should read :

"Dumb and Dumber"...

Leica users are not dumb. We are a resourceful lot in
overcoming "dumb" designs that while "brilliant" 30
years ago, ought to have been improved by now.

- --- Rolfe Tessem <rolfe@ldp.com> wrote:
> --On Monday, March 11, 2002 6:02 PM -0800 Jim Brick
> <jim@brick.org> wrote:
> 
> > At 08:11 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, Rolfe Tessem wrote:
> >
> >> Amazingly, the basket never seemed necessary with
> the M2 or M3. Maybe
> >> people just got dumber over the ensuing 20 years.
> >
> >
> > Rolf. Ever look inside an M2 or M3?
> >
> > Pretty hard to use a basket with an M2 or M3. They
> have a removable spool
> > that you have to hook the film into which
> guarantees that the film will
> > align properly.
> >
> > Leica got rid of the removable spool (for obvious
> reasons) and provided a
> > way of loading film without the possibility of
> dropping and losing a key
> > part. Something that those "dumb" M2 and M3 owners
> frequently did.
> >
> > The basket is simply a way of making loading
> easier and faster. If you
> > think it is for dummies, remove it and throw it
> away.
> 
> Jim,
> 
> On reflection, my initial response may have been a
> little intemperate, but 
> it was certainly not directed at you or anyone
> personally.
> 
> But yes, I've looked inside an M2 and M3 probably
> thousands of times as 
> I've reloaded them. And the fact that you have
> hooked the film into the 
> takeup spool and reinserted it into the body does
> NOT insure that you've 
> reloaded them properly. You still have to use your
> fingers and slide the 
> film up onto the sprockets and advance the film for
> a partial stroke to be 
> sure that the takeup is working.
> 
> If you have ever used an M2 or M3, all you have to
> do when loading an M4 or 
> M6 is load them the same way. And if you have a
> Rapidwinder, you won't need 
> the basket to help.
> 
> The problem is that if you know what you are doing
> and know enough to slide 
> the film up onto the sprockets, the basket actually
> gets in the way. If it 
> is misaligned with the tulip, it can delay the
> reloading while you get that 
> sorted out and move on.
> 
> Maybe someone should publish a book: "Leica Baskets
> for Dummies".
> 
> --
> Rolfe Tessem
> rolfe@ldp.com
> Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
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