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Subject: Re: [Leica] tele-elmarit
From: Mark Rabiner <mark@markrabiner.com>
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:48:11 -0800
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><Snip> 
> > > pay for them.   a nice common black 90 TE will probably sell in the
> > $500-600
> > > range, while the ultra rare chrome version in identical shape with the
> > > identical glass may command $3000 or more to a collector who has searched
> > for
> > > years trying to find it.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > > Steve Barbour wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Steve for the insight... I guess that is the question...?same
> > glass,
> > > > coatings, glue etc..why are there multiple variations of the SAME
> > thing??
> > > > Steve
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Stephen Gandy" <leicanikon@earthlink.net>
> > > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:19 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] tele-elmarit
> > > >
> > > > > it depends on your terminology.
> > > > >
> > > > > rather than different TE "versions,"  describing them as variations
> > of
> > > > the same
> > > > > version is probably a better description.  so far as I know the thin
> > TE
> > > > all
> > > > > have the same glass.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen Gandy
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve Barbour wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dan.....One thought that recurs to me concerns  the existence of
> > > > several
> > > > > > different  "thin 90 TE's " ,  as you know...summarized at Gandy's
> > > > > > Cameraquest. Are we speaking of one lens or 4-5 different types of
> > > > thin 90
> > > > > > TE's  ?   It would be interesting to survey peoples' opinions with
> > this
> > > > > > information considered in the  survey....Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I want to thank everyone for the lively discussion about the 90s!
> > > > > > > I had a Summicron 90 in chrome--- HEVVY-DOOTY! Sold it, and have
> > > > since
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > satisfied using a 1932 90/4 Elmar!!! Good portrait lens, but I
> > would
> > > > like
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > newer optic at times, and the discussion has helped me make up my
> > > > mind!
> > > > > > > I am still amazed at the different opinions about the same lens-
> > and
> > > > I
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > think it is all a matter of differences in QC, as was advanced at
> > one
> > > > > > > point... I think the 'Human Factor' which is more widely variable
> > > > than
> > > > > > > Leitz' QC is the reason there are so many diverse opinions!
> > Truly,
> > > > > > different
> > > > > > > strokes for different folks!!  :o)
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "tlianza" <tlianza@mediaone.net>
> > > > > > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 11:26 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Leica] tele-elmarit
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a thin tele elmarit and the pre-aspheric 90mm.  I found
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > perfomance of the tele-elmarit was very close to that of the 90
> > mm
> > > > > > > > summicron.  I ran a number of resolution tests and the
> > resolution
> > > > of
> > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > lenses was  identical at f5.6 and f11. at f2.8 the Summicron
> > seemed
> > > > to
> > > > > >
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I wonder what we are looking at above?
A Haiku gone to completely computer digital hell?!!?
Notice the "snip" above at the top? That was mine!
above that was a lot more:
> > mm
> > > > > > > > summicron.  I ran a number of resolution tests and the
> > resolution
> > > > of
> > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > lenses was  identical at f5.6 and f11. at f2.8 the Summicron
> > seemed

This wins first prize for more ">>>>>>>'s" than any post I've seen!

:)
Mark the snippy guy Rabiner
Portland, Oregon USA
http://www.markrabiner.com
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