Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/12/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks for the clue, Marc. I'll try what you suggest. My main point, of course, was that a very decent B/W film and its processing are readily available for a hobbyist with B/W desires and limited resources. Julian - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Attinasi" <marc@attinasi.org> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] [OT] Frugal for PAW... Chromogenics I never shoot XP2 Super any faster than 250 - but then, I don't scan the negs, I print them. At 400 the shadows are always so weak for me, at 200 they are great. I cannot image trying to get a print out of a roll shot at 800! For portraits, XP2 Super at 250 is one of my favorite films - smooth gradations and no grain! For general photography, I tend to need to print at grade 3 or 3.5, which is OK by me :) Interestingly, the Kodak Portra 400 B&W seems to shoot well at 320 or 400, I just don't like the tonality as much (and it costs too much!). - - marc Julian Koplen wrote: >John, > >I take my Ilford XP2 Super to my local Wal-Mart C-41 lab. In 20 minutes I >have a developed roll of negatives for $1.76 plus tax. And they cut them >into strips at my request. Then I use my film scanner. > >I do not find this film very contrasty. And I am told that XP2 Super >exhibits even less contrast if shot at an E.I. of 200. It is also said to >be very useful at an E.I. of 800, but more contrasty. As a fairly low >volume user, I have shot it only at 400 so far. I believe it to be a cheap >and easy way to get some good quality B/W negative material. > >The chances of a lethal scratch on your best shot are not very >strong--unless you are the guy for whom Murphy wrote his law :) > >Good luck........enjoy your camera........have fun with it. (Pardon the >preach.) > >Julian > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Straus" <Mail@SlideOne.com> >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:13 AM >Subject: Re: [Leica] [OT] Frugal for PAW... > > >on 12/22/01 8:07 AM, Jeffery Smith at jsmith45@bellsouth.net wrote: > >>and have the local camera store or Sam's do the developing. >> > >I have never liked taking film into mini-labs or discount stores for the >simple reason of care. I know that most of what I'll shoot will be heading >for the recycle bin but if you do get a good shot I'd hate to have the neg >missing or a looooong deep scratch along your negs from dirt in the >processer, both have happened to me a few times. Although I know the odds >are against it I'm still bothered by the possibility of it. > >>At the camera store, I just get development + an index sheet >>($4.75). At Sam's I get prints and an index sheet ($7). I prefer the Sam's >>method as I can get a pretty good idea of the image quality from a 3.4x5 >>print. For B&W, I do the same with Ilford XP2. >> > >Hmmm...cheap processing. I don't have a Sam's card but there are Walmarts >around here. Does anyone know what some of the cheapest places would be in >the Chicago area for process & print? > >>I have little spare time, so souping my own B&W is out of the >>question. >> > >I don't know if I really have the time either BUT I may want to make the >time. So far the B&W C-41 film is almost too contrasty for me. Plus the talk >of nice Neopan negs shooting 1600 speed (or anything other than 400 as C-41 >B&W) brings back memories of the darkroom days. Processing my own B&W will >just let me be more versital if I want to try fast film which I know I do. > >>The PAW is a challenge, but you'll like it. Prepare for some positive >>comments, negative comments, and no comments. But you'll improve your work >>as a result. >> > >Yes...improve... > >-- >John >Chicago, IL >http://SlideOne.com >==================== > >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of John Straus >>>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 2:18 AM >>>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>>Subject: [Leica] [OT] Frugal for PAW... >>> >>> >>>It's almost Ho, ho, ho time and PAW 2002 is right around the >>>corner. I hope >>>to embark on this mission and have as much success through the year as >>>others have, if nothing else learn from the experience. >>> >>>The question I have is what are some good ways of shooting a roll >>>a week but >>>not spending a lot of $$ doing so? My normal methods are shoot slides or >>>print film and go to a ProLab for Dip&Dunk. That is just not going to be >>>economical for me to do that @ $9 or $17 per roll. >>> >>>Sooo I was thinking of going back to some B&W neg film and do the >>>processing >>>myself. It would save some $$ (I think) and I could look at the film a >>> >lot > >>>faster (same eve) instead of taking it to a lab and wait 3 days. I can >>> >set > >>>something up to at least process the negs but I still need a >>>proof sheet. I >>>have a slide scanner but the thought of proofing a few frames at a time >>>feeding in and out doesn't seem like the best way, or is it? I >>>was thinking >>>of getting a cheap $100 flatbed to do the proofing on and I could use it >>> > >>>anytime I didn't want prints made for the color neg film I shoot. >>>How do you >>>guys do it? Any thoughts or ideas appreciated! >>> >>>-- >>>John >>>Chicago, IL >>>http://SlideOne.com >>>==================== >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >>> >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- *** Marc Attinasi *** * mailto: marc@attinasi.org * * http://www.attinasi.org * - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html