Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/12/22

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Subject: Re: [Leica] [OT] Frugal for PAW...
From: John Straus <Mail@SlideOne.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:13:07 -0600

on 12/22/01 8:07 AM, Jeffery Smith at jsmith45@bellsouth.net wrote:

> and have the local camera store or Sam's do the developing.

I have never liked taking film into mini-labs or discount stores for the
simple reason of care. I know that most of what I'll shoot will be heading
for the recycle bin but if you do get a good shot I'd hate to have the neg
missing or a looooong deep scratch along your negs from dirt in the
processer, both have happened to me a few times. Although I know the odds
are against it I'm still bothered by the possibility of it.

> At the camera store, I just get development + an index sheet
> ($4.75). At Sam's I get prints and an index sheet ($7). I prefer the Sam's
> method as I can get a pretty good idea of the image quality from a 3.4x5
> print. For B&W, I do the same with Ilford XP2.

Hmmm...cheap processing. I don't have a Sam's card but there are Walmarts
around here. Does anyone know what some of the cheapest places would be in
the Chicago area for process & print?

> I have little spare time, so souping my own B&W is out of the
> question.

I don't know if I really have the time either BUT I may want to make the
time. So far the B&W C-41 film is almost too contrasty for me. Plus the talk
of nice Neopan negs shooting 1600 speed (or anything other than 400 as C-41
B&W) brings back memories of the darkroom days. Processing my own B&W will
just let me be more versital if I want to try fast film which I know I do.
 
> The PAW is a challenge, but you'll like it. Prepare for some positive
> comments, negative comments, and no comments. But you'll improve your work
> as a result.

Yes...improve...

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John 
Chicago, IL 
http://SlideOne.com
====================

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of John Straus
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 2:18 AM
>> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>> Subject: [Leica] [OT] Frugal for PAW...
>> 
>> 
>> It's almost Ho, ho, ho time and PAW 2002 is right around the
>> corner. I hope
>> to embark on this mission and have as much success through the year as
>> others have, if nothing else learn from the experience.
>> 
>> The question I have is what are some good ways of shooting a roll
>> a week but
>> not spending a lot of $$ doing so? My normal methods are shoot slides or
>> print film and go to a ProLab for Dip&Dunk. That is just not going to be
>> economical for me to do that @ $9 or $17 per roll.
>> 
>> Sooo I was thinking of going back to some B&W neg film and do the
>> processing
>> myself. It would save some $$ (I think) and I could look at the film a lot
>> faster (same eve) instead of taking it to a lab and wait 3 days. I can set
>> something up to at least process the negs but I still need a
>> proof sheet. I
>> have a slide scanner but the thought of proofing a few frames at a time
>> feeding in and out doesn't seem like the best way, or is it? I
>> was thinking
>> of getting a cheap $100 flatbed to do the proofing on and I could use it
>> anytime I didn't want prints made for the color neg film I shoot.
>> How do you
>> guys do it? Any thoughts or ideas appreciated!
>> 
>> --
>> John
>> Chicago, IL
>> http://SlideOne.com
>> ====================
>> 
>> 
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