Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/12/12

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Subject: Re: [Leica] New M6 owner, what first Lens??
From: "B. D. Colen" <>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:36:46 -0500
References: <001f01c1831e$7dc059e0$a36dfea9@JSMITH>

I have to disagree, Jeff - I'd be much more inclined to say don't buy a 
used body than I would to say don't used glass. In fact, when it comes 
to Leica lenses, I always buy used when I can: the build on the Leica 
lenses is such that they will probably be functioning into the next 
century; lens cosmetics are utterly irrelevant; and you can instantly 
see if the glass is in good shape. Any seller worth dealing with - 
particularly dealers worth dealing with - will provide a money back 
guarantee. So while I am a real fan of the Cosina lenses - and swear by 
the 50 Nokton and also have a 75 Heliar - I would definitely recommend 
going for a 35 pre-asph Summicron over a 35 Cosina if the cost 
difference is not a problem.

All of that said, however, I would agree with you that the Cosina lenses 
are very good, and may, in fact, be as good as the pre-asph Leica lenses 
in image quality - but not in build.

B. D.

Jeffery L.Smith wrote:

> I would avoid the used market unless you can actually examine the
> condition of the lens before buying it. All three Voigtlander 35's are
> good, and the 35/2.5 Classic is probably the best in terms of value and
> convenience. The 50mm Nokton is reputedly very sharp, and the new 28mm
> also gets good reviews. You don't need to venture away from Voigtlander
> if you want a new great lens at a great price.
> I had used a 35mm lens for most of my "normal" work for 10 years. I'm
> just now beginning to appreciate 50mm. For many years, I did not own a
> 50mm. Now I have 7!
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [] On Behalf Of JP M
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:28 AM
> To:
> Subject: [Leica] New M6 owner, what first Lens??
> I just yesterday purchased a Classic M6 body from
> Richard Tillis at Woodmere Camera.  It should arrive
> toward the end of this week or early next.
> I'm on a tight budget and am now searching for a first
> lens.  I need a good value, but not
> state-of-the-art-optics.  Thread mount is OK,
> non-Leica is OK.
> My favorite cameras to date are my Canonet g3 ql17
> with a 40mm and my Rollie 35SE also with a 40mm.  I'd
> be very happy with a 35mm or even a 28mm.  But a 50mm
> would be OK if it were the "best value."
> My requirements are that the lens sync up with the
> body, meaning the framelines come up correctly and the rangefinder is
> fully and accurately coupled and the optics and mechanical aspects are
> perfect.  Cosmetics secondary. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jeff
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