Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/11/26

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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school.
From: "Tim Atherton" <tim@KairosPhoto.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:59:31 -0700
References: <3f.2477cd7.2932de66@aol.com> <v04011702b8274c27648d@[66.81.44.219]> <v04011703b828452046ad@[66.81.51.16]>

Chris Killip - one of my all time favourite Brit photographers (subject of a
new Phaidon 55 book) teaches photography at Harvard, Professor of Visual
Studies
based mainly on his credentials as a photographer, going by an interview I
read a few years ago.

Tim A


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From: "Guy Bennett" <gbennett@lainet.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school.


> >Guy Bennett wrote:
> >>> Though much of this activity is
> >> without significance in the "real world," real world values are
meaningless
> >> in the academy: it is a self-validating system that generally does not
> >> recognize non-academic achievement.
> >
> >Actually, my experience has been precisely the opposite - While I agree
> >entirely that virtually no one in the 'real world' gives a rat's behind
> >about your academic credentials once you get past your first job, I have
> >found that some folks in academia will grant 'equivalence' to certain
> >real-world accomplishments when hiring for positions in academia. At
> >both Harvard Medical School, where I was briefly the Director of Media
> >Affairs and had an academic appointment, and at MIT, where I teach, my
> >credentials in the world of journalism are viewed by academics as being
> >the equivalent of a doctorate in their world. The bottom line, I
> >believe, is that at these particular institutions the academics have
> >enough self-confidence to understand that they know what they know, and
> >that I know what I know, and what I know is as much of value to students
> >as what they know. (Does that make sense:-) )
> >B. D.
>
>
> It definitely does. And your case is a great example of how the "real
> world" can and should exist within the rarified world of the academy. From
> my experience, however, this is rather exceptional. I've been teaching the
> humanities - languages and literature - at the university level for about
> 14 years now (first at UCLA and various community colleges in the L.A.
area
> and, for the last 2-3 years, at Otis College of Art and Design) and have
> never seen anyone with less than a PhD given a teaching appointment in
that
> field. Even in community colleges, a full-time teacher in the humanities
> with only a MA is becoming something of an anachronism.
>
> Guy
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