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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school.
From: "Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 17:09:39 -0600
References: <B826972F.2E3F%george@rdcinteractive.com>

Good post, George, you are absolutely right.  I neglected the point of the personal
visit, which I think is key to chosing any program, (even an MBA).

Regards,
Sonny

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From: "George Day" <george@rdcinteractive.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school.


> Dave,
>
> In addition to these points, as others have pointed out learning how to run
> a business is part of the game.  Schools like Brooks teach business
> principles.  I know photographers whose financial success rivals and
> surpasses physicians and lawyers; some of them went to photography or other
> arts programs, others didn't.
>
> For the young man thinking of going to a grad program: if the camaraderie,
> intense learning experience and opportunity to live, breathe and think
> photography in a disciplined environment sounds attractive, then go.  If
> not, and if you have a formidable amount of self-discipline, then perhaps
> it's not for you.
>
> Also, to really get an idea about what it's all about, contact schools
> directly and, if practicable, set up interviews and tours.
>
> Either way, don't let anyone's snobbery, ravings, pessimism or insecurity
> get in your way.
>
> on 11/25/01 12:16 PM, David Rodgers at drodgers@swiftnet.com wrote:
>
> > My goodness Mark, how about encouraging people to follow their dreams!
> > There's nothing wrong with setting goals and accomplishing them, academic
> > or otherwise.
> >
> > As far as there not being any money in photography, over the past two
> > months I've met a half dozen photographers who make extremely  good
> > incomes. I know one photographer who just additional credentials and
> > increased fees substantially; a portrait photographer who already averages
> > around $4K net per client. Further, credentials can create opportunities on
> > the lecture and training circuit down the road. And what's wrong with
> > teaching others?
> >
> > Portfolios are important, but so are credentials in this day and age...as
> > are awards... I know photographers who do photography as a hobby. Their
> > real job is marketing and promoting their photography business.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 01:17 PM 11/24/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >> I guess you could show people your portfolio and on the last page have
> >> your MFA
> >> instead of keeping it in your sock drawer.
> >>
> >> My point being:
> >> what for?
> >> what do you want to be when you grow up?
> >> I guess not a photographer. There's no money in that.
> >> Better to stick to the academic atmosphere.
> >>
> >> I'd hate to be you in school your pictures are better than your teachers are
> >> going to be and they are not going to be happy about that.
> >>
> >> I guess you could get your MFA and teach others to get THEIR MFA
> >>         who could then teach OTHERS to get their MFA.
> >>
> >> My thought is
> >> Life is too short and you're no spring chicken.
> >>
> >> Time to start your Freshman year in Reality!
> >> Be a photographer! Reality 101!
> >> As far as i go you ARE a photographer.
> >> It's time to graduate!
> >>
> >> Mark Rabiner
> >> (my personal opinion only copyright 2001 any resemblance to living creatures
> >> dead or alive is purely coincidental and should not be construed)
> >> Portland, Oregon USA
> >> http://www.markrabiner.com
> >
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