Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/11/25

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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school.
From: George Day <>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 12:40:15 -0800


In addition to these points, as others have pointed out learning how to run
a business is part of the game.  Schools like Brooks teach business
principles.  I know photographers whose financial success rivals and
surpasses physicians and lawyers; some of them went to photography or other
arts programs, others didn't.

For the young man thinking of going to a grad program: if the camaraderie,
intense learning experience and opportunity to live, breathe and think
photography in a disciplined environment sounds attractive, then go.  If
not, and if you have a formidable amount of self-discipline, then perhaps
it's not for you.

Also, to really get an idea about what it's all about, contact schools
directly and, if practicable, set up interviews and tours.

Either way, don't let anyone's snobbery, ravings, pessimism or insecurity
get in your way.  

on 11/25/01 12:16 PM, David Rodgers at wrote:

> My goodness Mark, how about encouraging people to follow their dreams!
> There's nothing wrong with setting goals and accomplishing them, academic
> or otherwise.
> As far as there not being any money in photography, over the past two
> months I've met a half dozen photographers who make extremely  good
> incomes. I know one photographer who just additional credentials and
> increased fees substantially; a portrait photographer who already averages
> around $4K net per client. Further, credentials can create opportunities on
> the lecture and training circuit down the road. And what's wrong with
> teaching others?
> Portfolios are important, but so are credentials in this day and
> are awards... I know photographers who do photography as a hobby. Their
> real job is marketing and promoting their photography business.
> Dave
> At 01:17 PM 11/24/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>> I guess you could show people your portfolio and on the last page have
>> your MFA
>> instead of keeping it in your sock drawer.
>> My point being:
>> what for?
>> what do you want to be when you grow up?
>> I guess not a photographer. There's no money in that.
>> Better to stick to the academic atmosphere.
>> I'd hate to be you in school your pictures are better than your teachers are
>> going to be and they are not going to be happy about that.
>> I guess you could get your MFA and teach others to get THEIR MFA
>>         who could then teach OTHERS to get their MFA.
>> My thought is
>> Life is too short and you're no spring chicken.
>> Time to start your Freshman year in Reality!
>> Be a photographer! Reality 101!
>> As far as i go you ARE a photographer.
>> It's time to graduate!
>> Mark Rabiner
>> (my personal opinion only copyright 2001 any resemblance to living creatures
>> dead or alive is purely coincidental and should not be construed)
>> Portland, Oregon USA
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