Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/09/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]You have to remember, Ted, that being Canadian in South Louisiana alone makes you a suspicious character. You'll recall that the way we got Cajuns (Acadians) is that they were kinda pushed outta that country up there. Of course, here in Natchitoches, (Northwestern Louisiana)the oldest city in the Louisiana Purchase, we're descended directly from French Colonials, and so we're far more cordial to you Canadians (even the non-French variety!) "Laissez les bons temps rouler!" Regards, Sonny (Grandson of Angie Cardozier) http://www.sonc.com > Jim Laurel wrote: > >>> It's disturbing how many of us have had these experiences, especially in > the US. I'll add my stories to the fray.<<<<<< > Ted wrote: > The disturbing part of the related experiences for me is, "that they have > taken place in the United States of America!" This is the country seen by > nations of the world as the complete country of freedom of citizens and yet > we've read many tales of how those "free citizens " appear to be so paranoid > of cameras and pictures being taken. > > My own "challenged by" took place in a fishing village near New Orleans a > few years ago, took me completely by surprise, that for a moment I feared > some injury the way the chap was going on. My only momentary saving grace > was, I showed him my passport and drivers license with my pictures and I was > a visitor to his country and taking tourist pictures. > > It calmed him for a moment as he read, then responded.... "you government > guys can fake anything you want, get the hell out of here!" > > So it was game over, I high tailed it out of there. > > Many of us who've traveled abroad and even in some of the most troubled > countries have never had similar experience while shooting. Not to say some > haven't, but as we see here most of the comments reflect an attitude in the > US of, "fear, paranoia or what?" by it's residents when a camera is pointed > in their direction, even though they are not the centre of attraction. > > As your incident in Seattle. Quite amazing! > > > About four years ago, I was photographing a street corner just opposite > the > > Seattle's Pike Place market. I wasn't photographing anyone in particular, > > just the crowd scene. Next, this woman comes running up to me screaming > > "What right do you have to take pictures of Native Americans? You should > > ask permission! You have no right to disrespect Native Americans like > > this!" > > I wonder if USA members have any idea why ? And please guys, this need not > become some bashing thing. > ted > > Ted Grant Photography Limited > www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Laurel" <JimLaurel@earthlink.net> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: [Leica] Private property and buildings > > > I looked at her quizzically, and asked her what she was talking > > about. "What Native Americans? I'm just taking a photo of the street > > corner." She became even more irrational, which made it hard for me to > > understand her, but I did manage to catch that her father was standing > > across the street, near the corner. I could barely see him, much less > tell > > what he looked like, but she persisted. I just told her she was out of > her > > mind and walked away. I left her there, cursing. > > > > At Dave Harvey's photojournalism workshop in Santa Fe, most of us got > kicked > > out of at least one place or another for taking photos. A Danish friend > who > > was taking the class happened to see a police officer stopping a car for > > speeding. He rushed over and asked the driver of the vehicle if he could > > take some photos. The guy consented, and Claus started shooting. The > > Police officer immediately tried to shoo him away, but Claus countered > that > > he was aware that US law permitted him to photograph the scene, as it was > on > > a public road. The officer knew he was right and let him continue. > > > > I've always found the US a difficult place to photograph. Many people are > > quite paranoid and assume the worst when a stranger takes thier picture. > > > > --Jim > > > > > > > >