Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/09/06

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Private property and buildings
From: Edward Meyers <aghalide@panix.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 18:16:07 -0400 (EDT)

In the U.S. you can photograph from any public place, anything
you can see. The rules of non-use comes in how you use the pictures.
If someone trys to stop you from photographing in a public place,
you can "fight them off" and risk being hurt. Or do what I do,
call the cops.
In some Europan countries using Roman law, you can be stopped from
photographing from a public place, if the subjects object.
Ed

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, ternahan wrote:

> must be lawsuits pending...probably thought you were a PI or court
> investigator.
> trish
> ternahan@gentlelens.net
>
>
> > From: Mike Gil <dtt2150@yahoo.com>
> > Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: [Leica] Private property and buildings
> >
> > Dear Luggers,
> >
> > Here is one for the Nazi property owners file.  I was
> > photographing at the Century City Plaza towers in Los
> > Angeles.  When out of no where this lady comes up to
> > me and starts barking at me asking why I'm I taking
> > photographs of the buildings, she demanded to know if
> > I was going to publish the picture, what was my
> > purpose for taking the photographs.  I was completely
> > shocked at her behavior.
> >
> > First off these buildings are going to be torn down
> > and new ones put in their place, so I thought whats
> > the big deal.  Second, It was lunch time and I was
> > walking around with a camera in my hand no strap no
> > camera bag to photo vest just dress like one of the
> > crowd.  So I thought I was keeping a low profile. And
> > I was really not taking to many pictures of the
> > buildings just using the elevation of plaza to get
> > pictures of the surrounding buildings.
> >
> > I had just finished the roll of film and was putting
> > the lens cap back on, when so appeared out of no
> > where.  She promtly said "We don't allow pictures of
> > the building, it's private property!"  I said, I was
> > photographing the vista.  She kind of looked at me
> > funny.  And she continued the barrage, she said I
> > better stop it or else.
> >
> > I had enough of her and took the roll of film from the
> > camera and put it in my pocket.  I wasn't going to
> > give it up but she looked at me like if I was going to
> > turn it in to her.  I continued to sit there and she
> > stood there like she was protecting a million dollar
> > view.
> >
> > This place might be private property but its filled
> > with stores that encourage the public to walk thru,
> > office workers, tourist.  I said to her, if im across
> > the street and taking a picture of the building thats
> > ok right?  She again gave me a dirty face and said i
> > was not allowed to photograph the building period.  I
> > couldn't believe what she had just said.  Since now I
> > was getting pissed I told her I was walking across the
> > street and taking the picture.
> >
> > She must of run back to call security because next
> > thing I know i saw a couple of suits coming my way.
> > We'll I gave them the slip thru one of the many stairs
> > in this building complex, lucky for me this is not the
> > middle east.  I can't believe, I had become such a
> > criminal for taking a photo.  With all the lunatics
> > out there, I had become one of them.
> >
> > Has other luggers been harrased in this way before or
> > this building just going over the top. I think I might
> > post some of the photographs on the web,  I'm getting
> > scared.
> >
> > Mike Gil
> >
> >
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