Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/08/01

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Quality versus Medium Format
From: Dan Cardish <dcardish@sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 22:23:37 -0400
References: <12d.2506d2c.289a02c9@aol.com>

Anyone tried the newish Bronica 6x4.5 rangefinder?

dan c.

At 07:10 PM 01-08-01 -0700, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>><Snip> 
>> 
>> Herb Ritts shot the 1999 Pirelli calendar using a Mamiya RZ... a number of
>> shots using the 150/3.5.    I'm not sure about you, but when I saw the
>> calendar, I certainly said, amongst other things..."WOW!"
>> 
>> Kim
>> 
>Both Herb Ritts and Anne Leibowitz have mentioned much of the allure of
6x7 is
>it's incredible impact on the light table.
>This is why photographers use 6x7. I'd go 645 any day.
>It use to be that the additional average did not make up for Mamiyas low
>contrast optics.
>But people needed that impact on the light table and would use them anyway.
>Now their optics are more than OK. They cost a lot more and have been
upgraded.
>Frankly i find it astounding that so many of the best people find acreage
on the
>light table so crucial to how their work goes over to the extent that they
would
>use such a clunky piece of trash as a Mamiya 67 RB or RZ.
>Hell Ritts and Leibowitz are more famous than just about anyone they'd ever
>photograph, who do they need to impress?
>"Only as good as their last image" would be what's on their minds.
>
>The rangefinder i can get excited about. The RB's and RZ's put me off.
>A 6x6 camera needs to be twice the size to make it 6x7?
>But the fact is a 6x7 Looks miraculously twice the size on the light table.
>It's as if you need a Loup to see 6x6 but don't' need one to see 6x7.
>No it makes no statistical sense.
>
>I've been there making the presentations and i know how it feels. 
>I've made some of mine by showing up with a tray so what they first see are
>projected images from 35mm transparencies.
>NOT laid out on a light table where larger slides of half the quality will
have
>twice the impact.
>
>
>Mark Rabiner
>
>Portland, Oregon
>USA
>
>http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/
>

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