Re: [Leica] Meter Choices, - or MORONIC MUMBLINGS

["B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

jkcampbell1@mmm.com wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry but this advice is not only ridiculous but borders on
> condescending.
> 
> >I'd not complicate the issue but just go out and use the camera like it's
> >designed to be used.
> 
> The M series was not designed to be used with a built in meter. The meter
> was
> added later, first on top and with the M6, in the body.
> 
> >If you then somehow found something deeply unsatisfying about how the
> >camera works then cross that bridge then.
> 
> Sorry, but it's called "experimenting". Learning what works for you. You
> don't
> have to find something "deeply unsatisfying" to seek out alternative way.
> 
> >If you had a series of cameras with no meters and loved you meter then
> perhaps
> >your choice on an M might be to get an M4.
> 
> OK, if you're not going to use the meter in your M6 you must get rid of  it
> right away.
> As stated the M6 is designed to be used with the built in meter. You need
> an M2,
> M3, M4. You guessed it! Leica designed these cameras NOT to be used with a
> built in meter.
> 
> >But starting out as you say you are
> >I'd not complicate things for yourself.
> 
> That's right little lady, you should be in the house anyway, cooking and
> cleaning
> rather than toting a Leica around. My guess is that anybody that came to
> the
> conclusion that a Leica rangefinder was the camera for them can certainly
> handle learning to use a hand held meter.
> 
> >Why insult the camera by ignoring it?
> 
> This is probably the silliest thing I ever read on the LUG
> 
> OK, I'm not going to carry on any further, to answer your question Anne,
> there
> are lots of different kinds of hand held meters. It all depends on what
> type of features
> you're looking for. Most Leica shooters want something small that they can
> carry
> with them all the time. Check out the Gossen Pilot. If you're looking for
> something
> that does more than just incident and reflected light, look at the Minolta
> line,
> I've used the Minolta III and the Minolta F spot meter for many years and
> have been
> very happy with them. If you really want something that does it all but is
> about
> the same size as your M6 look at the Sekonic L-608 or L-508.
> Good Luck, jc
> 
> At 11:19 PM 7/15/01 -0700, you wrote:
> Annie RN wrote:
> >
> > I'm fairly new to photography.  I took the plunge and invested on a
> > second-hand Leica M6 Classic.  I am very pleased with it.  But I'd prefer
> to
> > use a separate meter.  I'd appreciate if you can share some suggestions.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Annie
> >
> As you are new to photography why not do the obvious thing and use the
> meter in
> the camera?
> Have you had bad luck with it already?
> I'd not complicate the issue but just go out and use the camera like it's
> designed to be used.
> If you then somehow found something deeply unsatisfying about how the
> camera
> works then cross that bridge then. I think it's bad vibes to ignore a
> perfectly
> operating meter in a camera. The M6 is a joy to use and use spontaneously.
> Put a
> filter on and it compensates for that. Use a telephoto lens and it just
> meters
> the center of what the lens sees.
> 
> If you had a series of cameras with no meters and loved you meter then
> perhaps
> your choice on an M might be to get an M4. But starting out as you say you
> are
> I'd not complicate things for yourself.
> USE the camera. It HAS a meter. It's part of how the camera operates
> 
> Why insult the camera by ignoring it?
> 
> Have people who have more experience look at your negs and tell you if you
> are
> exposing correctly.
> 
> I've used a hand held meter extensively in the last 2 months shooting with
> my
> Hasselblad. It's a Gossen Luna pro digital F. It's a nice way to work which
> makes you in a way more sensitive to light but is also often slower. When i
> shot
> with my Leica i used it's meter. It was the obvious easy thing to do. And
> the
> obvious easy thing to do is usually the best thing to do if you ask me.
> Do you have a "role model" who does so?
> 
> Mark Rabiner
> 
> Portland, Oregon
> USA
> 
> http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/