Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/04/25

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Subject: Re: [Leica] A Leica ChallengeTO KICK B. D. ;-)
From: Isaac Crawford <isaac@visi.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:47:04 -0400
References: <F17203C79991D4119B3900805F9A6BD009111E@pie-main.piengr.com> <3AE744AB.B6AE4B6E@earthlink.net>

"B. D. Colen" wrote:
 
> You can see how you did - pretty poorly for someone with such strong
> opinions about how given photographs should be taken and what would make
> them better.
> 
> Now I know I it's bush of me to get annoyed at the kind of "constructive
> criticism" you've so freely provided. And I know that when I post photos
> I ask for feed back. So you are, of course, entitled to your opinions of
> the photos. BUT - Given your admission of having very little
> photographic experience, I'd suggest throwing away the books and the art
> 101 course and getting out and spending 15 hours with a family, or 17
> hours in a labor/delivery room, or attempting to take photos at a
> funeral without outraging those whose loved one has died, and then look
> at your photos and see if they are shot "correctly" by the standards you
> set here.
> 
> B. D.

	B.D., how difficult the situation is when taking the picture is of
little consequence when critiquing the photo... Does the picture work,
could it have worked, what would have made it work are legitimate
questions when looking at a photo. Keep in mind that as much personal
satisfaction or meaning a photo has for you, it may not transfer to
someone else looking at it. Obviously he thought that there were some
problems, and he was explaining why the pictures weren't working for
him, it has nothing to do with his ability or experience in shooting
those conditions. "Let's see you do it!", is a pretty crummy way to
respond to well meant criticism... 
	I just checked the site with your pictures, and it said that it was
"down for routine maintenance" so I haven't seen the pictures yet, but
his "criticisms" seem to be mostly about framing. Do you feel that the
pictures couldn't have possibly been better framed? No, we are not all
Tinas or Teds, so we will occasionally (I wish!) miss "by that much"...
No sin there, and neither is pointing it out when asked... If you ask
for feedback, don't be surprised when you get it!:-)

Isaac

In reply to: Message from Tom Finnegan <TomF@piengr.com> ([Leica] A Leica ChallengeTO KICK B. D. ;-))
Message from "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> (Re: [Leica] A Leica ChallengeTO KICK B. D. ;-))