Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/03/27

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Jupiter 85mm f2
From: Marc James Small <msmall@roanoke.infi.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:20:33 -0500
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At 08:16 AM 3/27/2001 -0500, Dante A. Stella wrote:
>Theft is theft, and you are making artificial distinctions.  Trespass vis
et armis is
>not the basis for the use of someone else's intellectual property, whether
you are
>Soviet or Japanese.  The Soviets got away with it (1) because they were
not exporting
>to the West,, (2) no one cared to rattle their cage, and (3) everyone was
>Leica-obssessed.  The Japanese got away with it because the Americans let
them.

The Soviets were awarded the tooling and intellectual properties of the
Carl Zeiss Jena works by the Inter-Allied Committee on Optical Reparations;
 its chairman, Col Carl Nelson, lives now in St George, Utah, and was a
guest speaker several years back at an LHSA meeting.  He can fill in the
details if you are interested.

The British, similarly, were awarded the Volkswagen works, which they ended
up declining as a bad business (!) and the French were given the Saarland
for ten years.  

The very term "theft" implies an illegal activity.  It is hard to see how
the Soviet acquisition of Zeiss technology and equipment, blessed as this
was by the US, UK, and French governments, constituted an "illegal" activity.

The situation in Japan is far different, but the archives will reveal much
detailed discussion of this point.

Marc

msmall@roanoke.infi.net  FAX:  +540/343-7315
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