Re: [Leica] Re: Walt, you are dead wrong

[Walter S Delesandri <walt@jove.acs.unt.edu>]

Mark, Jim, etc....
I'll concede on this one....I don't see that removing the top 
of an M6 is a big deal, and I will never understand why they 
would change the design after 25 years, but hey, I don't have 
any info to refute it....

As for the other post, adjusting the vertical (any way) shouldn't 
disturb the infinity, which is an external adjustment regardless.

Mark, we had a "glued/not glued" argument years ago, and as you 
saw, some are DEFINITELY glued....others, I'll admit, are not...
I don't believe that an aftermarket repairman glued them, either...
I worked on an EARLY M6 (believe it or not, it was a reps camera--
he was embarrassed by the RF displacement) in/around 1980....
it of course DID NOT have the eccentric, and was most definitely 
glued....we discussed it, and he was familiar with the simplification
of the camera and the elimination of some adjustments, but not 
at the component level.

I realize that we're talking 20 years ago, and trying to decide 
what engineers (?) >THOUGHT<, so I accept Jims information, but 
still wonder WHY.....

As for keeping folks out of the adjustment, as was expressed 
a coupla years ago, I don't see it....some folks are heavy-handed,
others are extremely delicate...some owners adjusted their 
cameras for years with no damage, others (repairmen?) beat the 
crap out of the RF >WITH< the tool.

Bear in mind, there is NO reliable training available for Leica 
repair folks in the "free market", and Leica is dependent on 
independents for MOST out of warranty work....they can't do 
the work they have!!!...hence, DAG, Sherry, John, etc....we HAVE 
to have them if we're to keep using these cameras...and MOST of 
them learned by apprenticeship/etc.....it's a VERY unrewarding 
field...kinda like doing lab work for artists (!!! :) :) !!!)
The liablility alone has kept me away from any independent work, 
save for my own stuff and a few friends like Mark, Stu, Will, etc.

Walt

On
Fri,
3
Nov 2000, Jim Brick wrote:

> At 11:27 PM 11/3/00 -0600, Mark Rutledge wrote:
> >I'm going with Walt on this one. He has worked on more Leica's than most
> >will see in our lifetimes. He just adjusted my M6 and showed me why it was
> >preferable to remove the top plate. The adjustment is glued in place. I'm
> >sure you could stick a tool in that little hole and adjust it, but hell you
> >can drive a screw w/ a hammer too.
> >
> >Mark Rutledge
> 
> Walt can do it however he wants. But Solms makes the tool and does it as I
> outlined. Through the hole under the red dot. That's the ONLY reason there
> is a hole there.
> 
> The reason someone would go to the trouble to take a camera apart
> unnecessarily is because they simply are not informed. I suspect Walt is
> the only person in existence that would take an M camera apart to adjust
> the RF when the tool and means were developed expressly for that purpose,
> by Solms, with the M4P and M6.
> 
> Sort of like taking the engine apart when all you want to do is adjust the
> carburetor.
> 
> My gawd... why is this simple fact so difficult for anybody to see.
> 
> Hello!!!
> 
> Jim
>