Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/10/26

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Subject: [Leica] WAS: Tina nails it. now: kiss logic!
From: Ted <tedgrant@home.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:03:16 -0700
References: <B61D8580.4BB%michaeljohnston@ameritech.net> <f05010402b61e373e7536@[164.138.18.146]>

Christer Almqvist wrote:

> >>>>>>>But, ...would you use tripod, slow film or stopped down lens if that
> made the picture better?<<<<<<<

Hi Christer,
Any knowledgeable experienced photographer/photojournalist would do just that!
Man, it's just common sense to squeeze the best out of the lens and film ..... if
the opportunity allows for that to happen  I.E.: slow film, tripod rock steady
and the subject not going anywhere!!

One would have to be an absolute dumb ass idiot not to do that when the
opportunity presents itself!  It always is quality first! Isn't it? Otherwise why
do it?

Although 99% of my career has been "hand held" an Argus A2, Speed Graphic's,
Rollie's  to Leica whatever model & M - R's.  When the situation called for a
tripod,  I have always relied on the use of the tripod for the ultimate picture
recording quality of the moment for absolute perfect exposures!

Look this complete idiocy of tripod, slow film etc. has been blown out of context
.... common sense when to and when not to..... Look each photographic situation
and style determines when and what you are doing and what you have to record.  No
one style, technique is viable in every photo situation! Erwin has confirmed that
already!

And what seems to be happening,  the technical folks & the hand held folks appear
to be squaring off on each other.  Which in reality isn't the case.

The techie folks explain their side of the equation, we hand held folks do the
same and all the folks in the middle, who do a bit of both, are lost in the
wordsmith between the two aforementioned shooter styles!

And if you can figure out what the hell that means,  you're better than I,
Christer.;-)

As you know,  I always do,  "keep it simple stupid"   in how I use my Leica's to
do the best picture taking I can in whatever the moment calls for...... and I do
that with the least amount of technical thought.  As I'm more  concerned for the
split second of time recorded first,  and the lines per mm second. Always hopeful
the Leica will give me an image edge over the guys who don't use a Leica!  Isn't
that simple common sense logic?

I mean, as Tina explained, " why would any photographer use a tripod/slow film
for the utmost  Leica effect" and loose the picture? That would be pretty stupid.
Don't you think?  But that isn't what Erwin and a few others have been saying.

Just the opposite, "if you wish to experience the utmost Leica effect!  Then work
in this method, slow film, camera on tripod, stopped down to the appropriate
aperture"   And that is common sense for the moment of Leica lens quality!!
And  that technique may mean absolutely nothing to someone who works by their
photographic wit's in the jungle or the sports/political arenas of the world.

It basically comes down to the photographic moment before the photographer
determines which  method is required for the ultimate moment before the camera!

Hands only?....tripod only? ... the moment determines which is appropriate, not
an unwavering method! On either side of the equation.

ted

In reply to: Message from Mike Johnston <michaeljohnston@ameritech.net> ([Leica] Tina nails it)
Message from Christer Almqvist <christer@almqvist.net> (Re: [Leica] Tina nails it)