Re: LTM cameras, was: Re: [Leica] Yet Another Newbie

["Dan Post" <dpost@triad.rr.com>]

Stan, The Man!
I apologise! When I say "LTM", I mean, LEICA thread mount! All others are
"Cameras with Leica thread mount".... and I was just not clear in the
distinction! What I sould have said, was that Barnack Cameras are Leicas
that have thread mounts, and include all of them, up to and including the
IIIf cameras. I  know that the majority of IIIg cameras were thread mount-
there are rumoured prototypes of those with a basyonat mount, but the camera
itself shares so many features of the M3, that I always thought of it a the
major departure from the ones I though of as BArnack cameras!
I imagine that some consider the Barnacks as being those made up to the IIIa
or IIIb and were made up of pieces without the cast aluminum chassis.... Of
that, I am not sure!
I did have a IIIa, and to be honest with you, I found it no less sturdy than
the IIIc, or IIIf bodies, but then- I wasn't jumping out of burning
dirigibles, nor was I hunkered down in a free fire zone where the body would
be stressed to the extreme!!! About the only stress my LTMs get is a gently
loading of film, shots of local color and the grandchildren- and the
occasional stroking from me, while I mutter, "WHO's Yo DADDY?1"
(That was an 'inside' joke- and I'll explain it off list to you!!!)
Glad to see you still hanging in here! I would sign off in Polish, but
despite my efforts to learn how to ask for food and beer in as many
languages as I can manage, the only Polish I know is- "Polski Wyrob", which
I read off my pickle jar!!!
Best of light to you!
Dan
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanislaw B.A> Stawowy" <watteau@krakow.neurosoft.net>
To: <leica-users-digest@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 7:08 PM
Subject: LTM cameras, was: Re: [Leica] Yet Another Newbie


> In his message MArk, The Rabid Radical Rabiner! wrote following
> words of wisdom:
> > Actually, I was under the impression that the LTMs collectively, at
least by
> > the Japanese, were all Barnack cameras.... I may be wrong, and perhaps
one
> > of our friends in the East (or is it the Far far West?) can help us!
> > As far as I know, the cameras up to the IIIa were built-up, and didn't
have
> > the cast chassis, and perhaps that is the difference!
>
> Actually in so called Central Europe. Not West nor East...
>
> Probably I didn't understand the question. If you are asking if all early
> Leica cameras were LTM? Of course no. Some of them had fixed lens
> ( ur-Leica for example (does anyone see here funny connection
> with ur-villes from Covenant book???)) , some of them had interchangeable
> lenses, but not indexed properly (Leica I w/o O on ring)...
>
> If you are asking if all LTM cameras are Barnack cameras, answer is
> again negative. Not Zorki 4K nor Canon 7, nor even Voigtlander/Cosina
> Bessa R cannot be called Barnack camera. For example, none of LTM
> Leicas had combined rangefinder/viewfinder, nor lever advance. Not even
> quick loading <huge grin here>
>
> If I misunderstood question, please retype this in Basic English <g also>
>
> St.
>
>