Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/09/26

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Pensees
From: Bill Satterfield <cwsat@cyberhighway.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:47:15 -0500
References: <000601c027cd$1b20fea0$6c0110ac@ccapr.com>

B. D. I have a M3 and will get M2 when I find the right one. Where is a good
source for the take up spools. I will not get into a bidding frenzy on  E bay.
Are they readily obtainable? Cost?

"B. D. Colen" wrote:

> Yup....Get a couple of spare takeup spools, attach each one to the leader of
> a roll of film, and when you need to reload, drop the mutha in and keep
> shooting....it's a bit like speedloading a .44, not that I own any guns or
> have ever speed loaded a .44, but I have watched a lot of Dirty Harry
> movies- and I've also speed loaded M3s in  my younger days......
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Bill
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:05 AM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Pensees
> >
> >
> > No but during the 60's protest marches I could change the film in my M3
> > running at full speed.
> >
> > Bill in Denver
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Javier
> > Perez
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 3:07 AM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Pensees
> >
> >
> > Surely there must be a story about a
> > guy with 1 hand who could reload and shoot
> > with an M3 without any problem.
> > Javier
> >
> > Mike Quinn wrote:
> >
> > > A few answers:
> > >
> > > Joe Sobel asked:
> > >
> > > > 1. If Leicas have a theoretically unlimited life, even if digital
> > > > did not take over, would prices eventually come down on used
> > gear anyway
> > > > - it would seem that with an unlimited number of M6s to be produced,
> > > > there would be a glut.>>
> > >
> > > No Glut:  the rate at which Leica collectors are produced has always
> > greatly
> > > exceeded the rate at which the cameras were produced...
> > >
> > > > 3. If an M3 had no framelines, would the field be equivalent to a 40mm
> > lens?
> > >
> > > Not Quite. But what you see when you move your eye from side to
> > side until
> > > the 50 mm frame lines disappear does approximate the 40 mm coverage.
> > >
> > > > 5.    Just what is Vulcanite and how do they apply it so evenly at the
> > > > factory?  Is it a liquid which is then embossed while on the parts?!>>
> > > >
> > > Check the archives on this one. It's a pre-formed shell of now
> > unavailable
> > > composition material that was bonded to the body by heat (hence
> > > "vulcanite").
> > >
> > > > 6.    Is it really easier to load an M3 than an M4?
> > >
> > > Yes, but it helps to have more than two hands.
> > > The optimum number of hands is 8:
> > >
> > > 1 hand to hold the camera
> > > 1 hand to hold the film canister
> > > 1 hand to remove the top of the canister
> > > 1 hand to remove the film from the canister and then hold the film
> > > 1 hand to remove and hold the camera base-plate
> > > 1 hand to remove and hold the take-up spool
> > > 1 hand to insert the film tongue into the take-up spool
> > > 1 hand to open the back door (which has fallen closed as you did the
> > above)
> > >
> > > Most people lack eight hands, so they either seek help, stuff
> > things into
> > > various orifices, or drop the film canister, the top of the
> > film canister,
> > > the base plate, or the take-up spool.
> > >
> > > Of course this M3 procedure is (as you note) far easier than the one on
> > the
> > > M4 in which you have to accomplish essentially the same thing
> > in the dark
> > > and inside the camera body since the take-up spool cannot be removed...
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > Mike Quinn
> >
> >
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In reply to: Message from "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> (RE: [Leica] Pensees)