Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/09/26

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Pensees
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:07:47 -0400

I had an M2 and M3 about 25 years ago, so I really can't tell you now where
to find them, unfortunately....But I assume they are around and not too
fabulously expensive...Well, maybe they are...but worth it to be able to
load fast.....;-)
B. D.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Bill
> Satterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:47 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Pensees
>
>
> B. D. I have a M3 and will get M2 when I find the right one.
> Where is a good
> source for the take up spools. I will not get into a bidding
> frenzy on  E bay.
> Are they readily obtainable? Cost?
>
> "B. D. Colen" wrote:
>
> > Yup....Get a couple of spare takeup spools, attach each one to
> the leader of
> > a roll of film, and when you need to reload, drop the mutha in and keep
> > shooting....it's a bit like speedloading a .44, not that I own
> any guns or
> > have ever speed loaded a .44, but I have watched a lot of Dirty Harry
> > movies- and I've also speed loaded M3s in  my younger days......
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Bill
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:05 AM
> > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Pensees
> > >
> > >
> > > No but during the 60's protest marches I could change the
> film in my M3
> > > running at full speed.
> > >
> > > Bill in Denver
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Javier
> > > Perez
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 3:07 AM
> > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Pensees
> > >
> > >
> > > Surely there must be a story about a
> > > guy with 1 hand who could reload and shoot
> > > with an M3 without any problem.
> > > Javier
> > >
> > > Mike Quinn wrote:
> > >
> > > > A few answers:
> > > >
> > > > Joe Sobel asked:
> > > >
> > > > > 1. If Leicas have a theoretically unlimited life, even if digital
> > > > > did not take over, would prices eventually come down on used
> > > gear anyway
> > > > > - it would seem that with an unlimited number of M6s to
> be produced,
> > > > > there would be a glut.>>
> > > >
> > > > No Glut:  the rate at which Leica collectors are produced has always
> > > greatly
> > > > exceeded the rate at which the cameras were produced...
> > > >
> > > > > 3. If an M3 had no framelines, would the field be
> equivalent to a 40mm
> > > lens?
> > > >
> > > > Not Quite. But what you see when you move your eye from side to
> > > side until
> > > > the 50 mm frame lines disappear does approximate the 40 mm coverage.
> > > >
> > > > > 5.    Just what is Vulcanite and how do they apply it so
> evenly at the
> > > > > factory?  Is it a liquid which is then embossed while on
> the parts?!>>
> > > > >
> > > > Check the archives on this one. It's a pre-formed shell of now
> > > unavailable
> > > > composition material that was bonded to the body by heat (hence
> > > > "vulcanite").
> > > >
> > > > > 6.    Is it really easier to load an M3 than an M4?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but it helps to have more than two hands.
> > > > The optimum number of hands is 8:
> > > >
> > > > 1 hand to hold the camera
> > > > 1 hand to hold the film canister
> > > > 1 hand to remove the top of the canister
> > > > 1 hand to remove the film from the canister and then hold the film
> > > > 1 hand to remove and hold the camera base-plate
> > > > 1 hand to remove and hold the take-up spool
> > > > 1 hand to insert the film tongue into the take-up spool
> > > > 1 hand to open the back door (which has fallen closed as you did the
> > > above)
> > > >
> > > > Most people lack eight hands, so they either seek help, stuff
> > > things into
> > > > various orifices, or drop the film canister, the top of the
> > > film canister,
> > > > the base plate, or the take-up spool.
> > > >
> > > > Of course this M3 procedure is (as you note) far easier
> than the one on
> > > the
> > > > M4 in which you have to accomplish essentially the same thing
> > > in the dark
> > > > and inside the camera body since the take-up spool cannot
> be removed...
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > Mike Quinn
> > >
> > >
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